This is what I thought but there's so many scams around anything these days that there's always that doubt in the back of ones mind.
What made me doubt is there's no actual offence noted, nor any date nor any evidence (photo for instance).
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What made me doubt is there's no actual offence noted, nor any date nor any evidence (photo for instance).
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Look the address up on Google Earth to make sure it is legit.
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Already done Frank, they're legit.
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Bad luck. I was done for speeding in France. 200 euros I think. Thing is it went to court there to be confirmed. Court thought it was not enough and demanded another 40 euros so I sent it. In those days they took me to the police station and I had to pay cash before they released me. "Going too fast for the conditions".
I'm guessing that was the 110 kmh 'par temps de plui' when other times it's 130kmh?
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Yes it was raining. Very stupid thing to do especially as it was 160kph. They caught me at the peage.
Very easy to be caught there. You're timed at the last peage, so the system does a quick calculation and gives it to the Gendarme at the other side. Funny how it seems not to apply to the other (more local) drivers that are either the same speed or faster.
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This I did not know - good to know now though. I think I may have been lucky in the past.
I think it depends if there happens to be a Gendarme fishing for speeding Brits sitting after the tolls.
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You would have thought they'd have the common sense to send the letter in English.
If you have European cover included on your insurance then you must tell them but I can't see why they would put any loading on your next premium as your licence hasn't been endorsed as such.
I got caught in NI last year and had to send off a cheque for the fine, produce my licence (the old green paper type) at my local police station who then posted it to traffic police HQ in Belfast so they could create an Irish paper counterpart to mine, add 3 points on my licence and post it back to me. The whole thing took around 2 months. So much for 21st century communications!
If you have European cover included on your insurance then you must tell them but I can't see why they would put any loading on your next premium as your licence hasn't been endorsed as such.
I got caught in NI last year and had to send off a cheque for the fine, produce my licence (the old green paper type) at my local police station who then posted it to traffic police HQ in Belfast so they could create an Irish paper counterpart to mine, add 3 points on my licence and post it back to me. The whole thing took around 2 months. So much for 21st century communications!
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It was a fair cop for me. I was told that I was going too fast in the rain even though I was miles over the dry speed limit. I've done a lot of French and Spanish motoring and have not noticed any police picking on just English cars. French drivers are generally OK but Spanish drivers are very law abiding. Terrible in Portugal.
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There is no paper part anymore, that’s why now if you want to hire a car you have to go through the ridiculous process of obtaining a code from dvla because that’s the only way the hire company can see any convictions. If you concerned about it being legit ask for details of the offence.
Yes I had forgotten this rigmarole for car hire, (which they didn't bother with when we hired a car in Hungary) which makes one wonder what worth the sticker is on the plastic card if it can be removed. It all seems a bit bizarre.
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Well that's another big plus for the old paper licence then. I'll hang on to mine as long as possible!
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I don't think they are valid for any reason now.
From dvla website (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/driving-licence-changes)
"What to do with your paper counterpart
The paper counterpart to a driving licence has had no legal status since 8 June 2015. You should destroy yours if you have one, but keep your photocard driving licence."
The last 3 times i've hired a car in the EU they haven't asked for the code at all. Once you are setup and registered it's quite pain free to generate a new one. With the fairly new EU data roaming regulations it's even quite cheap and easy to do it at the hire care counter if it were ever asked for.
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I have my paper counterpart to a driving licence which I am going to send to them, I'm wondering if the offence details will be registered to the DVLA and apply in the UK.
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I'm talking about the old green paper licence prior to the introduction of the plastic card type, not the paper counterpart to the card.
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Ahh sorry .. different story then.
I wouldn’t worry about that at all Chas, if they do they do, there’s nothing you can do to control or influence that.
Remember, they are imposing a ban from you driving in Germany, so how can that affect you in the UK.
I suppose your main concern is whether they can add penalty points to your license, which would count when cumulative your penalty points in the UK.
Again, it’s out of your control IMO, so there’s no point in losing sleep over it.
What is not clear in the letter is what they want you to send to them. They say your license, an as the green piece of paper has no legal status (since June 2015) then sending it to them will not count for anything. The only thing you have that counts legally as a license is your plastic license card.
I’m concerned that you will fall foul of them saying “we asked for your license and you sent us a worthless piece of paper so here’s a €1000 fine and a lifetime ban from German Roads... “ or such like.
Can’t you contact the DVLA for guidance? I would have thought that the German authorities should have contacted the DVLA (and not you) in the first place...
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