Hi Gav and James, big thanks for arranging and allowing me to play in the "toy", what a laugh, made two old boys giggle like a pair of young girls, top weekend, great to see all the new and old faces, I think Alf has a video of his 80 extraction with a kinetic rope, will see if I can get him to upload it, I need a new rope now, I think an 80 half full of mud most of been its breaking point! great weekend, people and weather, what more could we ask, onto next one! where next? cheers Jon and Alf