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Drawers / No drawers,
Here's our experience with boxes / drawers:
1) On a 3 month trip to North Africa we used banana boxes in 2 x 60's Toyota
Landcruisers. We were four guys, so the mess didn't bother us too much, and
we took turns digging out the boxes we needed. Packing, re-packing,
removing, re-packing just got a bit of a chore, and we got used to it - the
drawer system started to appeal.
2) Another 8-week trip through Southern Africa, this time 1 x 60's
Landcruiser, and my wife. This time we upgraded to see-through plastic
packing boxes, a step up from the gaffered-up banana boxes that started to
disintegrate. Once again we had to remove basically all boxes every night,
and pack them back in away from the wildlife running away with the oranges.
The next morning same thing. Not so good on the back.
3) Last year we've been camping with wooden drawers in our 80 series, and
what a pleasure and everything in it's place. Also, you just need to jump in
the cruiser for a last-minute weekend away, with all utensils, coffee, and
gas burner in place. It's a much better system in my opinion. It takes 10
min's to dismantle if you want the load area. For camping / overlanding, I
recommend diy drawers.
As for sleeping, I can't stand hitting my head when I wake up. Roof-top tent
is easy to set up, and all the bedding stays out the cabin area on the roof.
Pricey, yes. It's a matter of convenience in the end though.
My 2p worth.
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Rgds, Dennis - London (UK) 100 % sunshine, but a long weekend at The Lake
Districts were SUPERB!
'96 1HD-FT, drawers
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:52:03 -0000, Lamminga, Dennis (Distributed
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Dennis ,
2) Boxes - with some planning and keeping stuff in good order you do
not need to repack everyting each day ;-)
1) Did you install drawers with or without the rear seats row?
If without, how did set up the drawers in the space righ behind the
front seats?
3) For my trips through Europe I would not leave home without a bed at
the back of the cruiser. When I am tired, at the nearest services I
just and pop out to the back for an hour. With a roof tent I'd look
rather out of kilter.
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Roman,
With. I can then just lower the rear seats, slide the carpeted board over
the rear seats, and hey presto! a double bed even long enough for me. A bit
claustrophobic, but you're right, nice to have a cat nap at the European
Service Stations (why don't more English Service Station cater for
overnighting / quick shower or freshen up? Everywhere "Tiredness can kill,
take a break" are signposted, but once you stop at a Service Station @ 89.9
p / litre Diesel and "Max stay 2 hours" signs everywhere, I feel more
stressed!)
No rear seats does free up a lot of space, but with them in place more
travellers can join you! Or maybe that's not a good thing..
Btw, How does your fridge fit in when you sleep in the car?
We camped many a night with the rooftop tent between the 18-wheelers in
Europe. Wasn't bothered once, and you get a free 5am wake-up call with all
the engines being started! ;-)
I think ideally one would like a setup where you can have both 1) sleep in
the car and 2) on the roof.
Off to give Brownchurch a call regarding a new roofrack for the 80series.
Hopefully they still have the measurements for your one!
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Dennis, London
'96 1HD-FT
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:52:56 -0000, Lamminga, Dennis (Distributed
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The top of the fridge is part of the bedding surface. Yes, I know it's
claustrophobic but once you go to sleep you do not pay attention :)
Maybe they do. But their technology is pretty straightforward. You
tell them what you want and a guy comes with a tape and takes
measurements. Afterwards, if it doesn't fit, he grinds a bit off and
welds it again..
If you want the roofrack to last, have it dip coated in hot zink. You
can always have it painted or powder coated afterwards.
BTW, they also did a rear ladder for me.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Hi Dennis and Roman
Interested to hear about your drawers.
Am back in the US for this week so cannot join in but I will be going for the
extended range tank and sorting something very clever (i hope) for the rear
end/boot space. Had a quick skim through the rest of the posts and notice Roman
that you have a rear ladder... always avoided these as they seem to attract
kids. This happen to you or not?
Bye y'all from the Lone Star State, the home of one George Dubbya Bush.
Jeremy
Missing his Cruiser>
 
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Hi there Guys and good morning to you all
I would also like to know any information any one has on drawers for my
cruiser, I did some searching but for some reason I could only get ones that
were too far away to ship cause of the weight. Also has any one come across
a reasonable priced cargo barrier because all I can seem to find is the
MIlfords which I think is expensive and another one aswell in Aus. Surly
there must be a maker of drawers closer to home.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HD-T Auto Iraland
 
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John and Jeremy,
Surly there must be a maker of drawers closer to home.
At the moment we've got 2 x drawers that fitted behind the rear seats. When
the rear seats fold down, it's level and forms a double bed.
The next step will to fit the 45 litre fridge and build more drawers around
the Engel, but I'm busy taking measurements and thinking about the best way
in doing this.
What I'm proposing to do is publish a schematic of the drawers with
ingredients / tools used on a website somewhere for future reference. The
drawers don't need to cost a lot, and B&Q or any local woodwork shop should
sell you some for a pittance. (John, is there a B&Q in Ireland? Come to
think of it, with all the sheep there, and having to import sheepskin covers
for your Cruiser, do they sell wood there or do you have to import? In fact,
are there any trees in Ireland? And if there were, wouldn't the lumber jacks
be drinking Guinness anyway?)
Jeremy, let me know how you get on with the LRFT.
Even without a ladder, we had kids jumping on the rear bumper, holding on
the roofrack, or the little ones hanging on the rear screen wiper, and oops,
no more wiper. Then we had ones jumping on and hanging on to our rubbish
bags hanging from the roofrack..
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Rgds,
Dennis - London, UK
'96 1HD-FT
'91 1HD-T to be sold ;-(
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On Tuesday 01 February 2005 09:12, Lamminga, Dennis (Distributed Support)
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I'd be intested is seeing this along with some photos, as we are hoping to do
something like this with our 60 series. :)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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Hi Debbie,
The Draws should be easy enough to make up from plywood or aluminum, the
runners can be sourced easily enough I should think.
Just curious what side of the water are you as I originally come from up
there?
Anthony Graham
1994HDJ80 1HD-T
West Wales
UK
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Sent: 01 February 2005 12:30
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Subject: Re: [ELCO] Drawers
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 09:12, Lamminga, Dennis (Distributed Support)
wrote:
I'd be intested is seeing this along with some photos, as we are hoping to
do
something like this with our 60 series. :)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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On Tuesday 01 February 2005 16:53, Anthony Graham wrote:
Yeah we were thinking of maybe plywood. Just talked about it so far without
any serious planning. We were thinking of making some kind of locker for the
sides over the wheel arches, with some kind of drawer system in between. This
way we can store some of our regular camping equip in there in case we just
want a lightweight weekend away without the caravan.
We are quite some way from the water. We are actually on the edge of
Merseyside, close to the Cheshire / Lancashire borders, but my husband was
born in Bootle :)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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I have made boxes with hinged lids but no drawers for my LR101FC out of 3/4
inch or 18mm ply for the top and 8mm 1/4inc for the sides the corners were
supported on the inside with 1 inch angle iron. They are immensely strong.
It sounds as though you are near Runcorn, Warrington. I was brought up in
Upton the Wirral but born in Knotty Ash.
Anthony Graham
1994HDJ801HD-T
West Wales
UK
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From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: 01 February 2005 17:07
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Drawers
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 16:53, Anthony Graham wrote:
Yeah we were thinking of maybe plywood. Just talked about it so far without
any serious planning. We were thinking of making some kind of locker for the
sides over the wheel arches, with some kind of drawer system in between.
This
way we can store some of our regular camping equip in there in case we just
want a lightweight weekend away without the caravan.
We are quite some way from the water. We are actually on the edge of
Merseyside, close to the Cheshire / Lancashire borders, but my husband was
born in Bootle :)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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Debbie et al.
The Draws should be easy enough to make up from plywood or aluminum, the
> runners can be sourced easily enough I should think.
you can try these guys for runners, excellent quality and a huge range of all sorts of useful bits and pieces furniturewise
http://www.hafele.co.uk
Cheers for now
Nick
New Forest UK
'90 - AUS import ('96) - HZJ75 Pick Up - 4.2 dsl - manual - retro fitted turbo
 
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Hi Nick
These guys only supply to the trade.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HD-T Auto Ireland
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From: Nick Dowling
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Drawers
Debbie et al.
The Draws should be easy enough to make up from plywood or aluminum, the
> runners can be sourced easily enough I should think.
you can try these guys for runners, excellent quality and a huge range of all sorts of useful bits and pieces furniturewise
http://www.hafele.co.uk
Cheers for now
Nick
New Forest UK
'90 - AUS import ('96) - HZJ75 Pick Up - 4.2 dsl - manual - retro fitted turbo
 
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On Tuesday 01 February 2005 18:02, Anthony Graham wrote:
Hmm ... this is the alternative idea and would propbably keep the costs down,
as I can imagine runners could prove it be hard to source and/or expensive. I
don't suppose you have any pictures you could forward my way, to help spur on
the brain cells do you? Lol
A little further east, I live in a place called Newton Le Willows, which sits
between the towns of St Helens, Warrington and Wigan.
Ohh from over the water, but maybe you were brought up on jam butties ;o)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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Debbie,
I secured the angle iron which was cut to lengths to match the ply with pop
rivets. So each corner were two lengths of ply joined had an inside support
of angle iron the length of each corner, the 1 inch angle iron and the ply
were drilled and then pop riveted together, you could just bolt it together.
I used rivets for convenience speed and strength.
I know were Newton Le Willows I had relatives there. My sister and my
brother in law are both paramedics, and he is covering that area. I moved
here to dig my own Jam Buttie Mine but keep on finding leeks!
Anthony Graham
1994HDJ801HD-T
West Wales
UK
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From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: 01 February 2005 21:08
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Drawers
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 18:02, Anthony Graham wrote:
3/4
strong.
Hmm ... this is the alternative idea and would propbably keep the costs
down,
as I can imagine runners could prove it be hard to source and/or expensive.
I
don't suppose you have any pictures you could forward my way, to help spur
on
the brain cells do you? Lol
A little further east, I live in a place called Newton Le Willows, which
sits
between the towns of St Helens, Warrington and Wigan.
Ohh from over the water, but maybe you were brought up on jam butties ;o)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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On Tuesday 01 February 2005 21:21, Anthony Graham wrote:
Certainly sounds as though they would be very strong, and possibly the kind of
thing we were thinking of. Are the boxes fitted in permanantly or are they
lift out. Also if fitted, how did you work around the wheel arches?
Well well, what a small world it is lol. I don't live that far from the
ambulance station, in fact it is on the edge of my estate.
I always beleived that sheep turned the jam sour, and thats why the jam butty
mines did well in Knotty Ash, ie no sheep. Hmm maybe you might be able to
find a leek pie mine in time ;)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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Debbie
The boxes were fitted to my Landover 101FC and were semi permanent, that is
bolted down to stop them coming adrift in a capsize. The 101 was our only
vehicle for many years from 1990 and we camped, green lane, and trialed
competitively in it, not to mention go to work etc. We also have a marine
cooker which is powered by paraffin and uses a small electric pump. This
has a heat exchanger that heats two hot plates and the fumes are scavenged
off through an exhaust. The beauty of this machine was that when the
cooking was over you just closed the lid and a thermoelectric switch turned
on fans that then blew hot air into the cab. This used very little power or
ampere and allowed us to camp in the mountains off road in the worst
winters.
Anthony
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From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: 01 February 2005 21:36
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Subject: Re: [ELCO] Drawers
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 21:21, Anthony Graham wrote:
pop
Certainly sounds as though they would be very strong, and possibly the kind
of
thing we were thinking of. Are the boxes fitted in permanantly or are they
lift out. Also if fitted, how did you work around the wheel arches?
Well well, what a small world it is lol. I don't live that far from the
ambulance station, in fact it is on the edge of my estate.
I always beleived that sheep turned the jam sour, and thats why the jam
butty
mines did well in Knotty Ash, ie no sheep. Hmm maybe you might be able to
find a leek pie mine in time ;)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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Debbie,
Just a short addition a web page with boxes made by an 80 chap not as I
made but very detailed and may be of use to you.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4153900093&code=14367795&
mode=invite&DCMP=isc-email-AlbumInvite
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: 01 February 2005 21:36
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Drawers
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 21:21, Anthony Graham wrote:
pop
Certainly sounds as though they would be very strong, and possibly the kind
of
thing we were thinking of. Are the boxes fitted in permanantly or are they
lift out. Also if fitted, how did you work around the wheel arches?
Well well, what a small world it is lol. I don't live that far from the
ambulance station, in fact it is on the edge of my estate.
I always beleived that sheep turned the jam sour, and thats why the jam
butty
mines did well in Knotty Ash, ie no sheep. Hmm maybe you might be able to
find a leek pie mine in time ;)
Debbie
Merseyside, UK
1983 HJ60
 
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Hi Anthony
I tried to see the the drawers but could only get all the photos of his
cruiser, help me.
JOHN C 92HDJ 80 1HD-T Ireland
 
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John
Yes I tried your link and I see what you mean. I tried and was OK so try
this
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4153900093&code=14367795&
mode=invite&DCMP=isc-email-AlbumInvite
Anthony
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From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
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Sent: 04 February 2005 22:14
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Subject: Re: [ELCO] Drawers
Hi Anthony
I tried to see the the drawers but could only get all the photos of his
cruiser, help me.
JOHN C 92HDJ 80 1HD-T Ireland
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4153900093&code=14367795&
 
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