Hello, I am a new potential LC owner in Bristol UK

[roosterbell]

Hello to you all ,

I want a Landcruiser 80 for a trip to Morocco.
Hopefully a Manual transmission, UK spec, up to 160k mileage, give or take a bit.

Any advice would be welcome .

Best to to buy one kitted out, or best to buy one never been offroad and kit it out yourself ? mmmm

and many other questions, maybe for another time,cheers

 

[karl webster]

Hi And welcome

Theres quite a cheap import one on ebay at the min at 6.5k. Ill put the link up later.

Other than that one if you buy all your things second hand and not new would be the way to go.

Karl

 

[karl webster]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OVERLAND-TRAV ... 20c2a25f80


Good buy i think

 

[Chris]

Why 'never been off road'? I wouldn't worry about that. One that has spent its life on tarmac is not guaranteed to be somehow perfect. Going off road in one is not going to be detrimental. Manuals aren't quite as common.

Welcome to the forum and let's hope we can find you something.

Chris

EDIT - nice looking truck Karl, but for a 91 quite expensive. Most of what is fitted is just tinsel and glitter. It all looks like it adds up to a lot, but really, it's a few bolt on bits some of which you don't need anyway.

 

[Olazz]

Geeze, thats very cheap!

Snap it up Rooster.... hurry!!

 

[Julian T]

Welcome and good luck finding a cruiser you like.

 

[karl webster]

If i was wanting one for that purpose i would buy it. Just noticed chris posted.... hes after a manual.

Karl

 

[roosterbell]

thanks , yeah , I have seen this one , and it looks like a good buy , everything ready to go, and expensive items already been paid for and added to the vehicle. I didnt want roof tent or particularly a safe, fridge or filter or high lift jack. anyway thanks for the link.
I have already been in touch with the owners and and there are issues for me only in my position. I want a daily driver with seats for two kids in the back for one year before I go on travels in it.
Owners reply was "It is not really possible to use as an everyday car. We left one back seat behind the driver but it is not very secure and we only used it when we had to have guides in the car. It is MOT'ed as a two seat car. "

and also I don't want an import due to me not wanted one less locking diff,..... although I dont know if this is an issue or not to be honest.

2nd hand parts , good tip.

The bizarre thing is that I have looked at posts on forums a lot in recent weeks and I have seen 80's sold for less money in 2008 than they sell for now, thats amazing. Cars are supposed to depreciate. This is the car to have , a useable classic.

Oh yeah I have googled "chequered flag car sales " and I dont need to tell you what I found ,

 

[karl webster]

As for the prices they are going up all the time. They wont go down now and finding a so called cheap one is hard. I personally think a cheap one is around 4k.

I have used a import off road and found them to be quite good as they have the limited slip diff in the rear. Some imports have lockers all round.

Has it got to be a manual truck then? As chris has mentioned there are more autos poping up on the market.

Karl

 

[Chas]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OVERLAND-TRAVEL-TOYOTA-LAND-CRUISER-/140704374656?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20c2a25f80
Good buy i think

Not that I'm in the market for another 80, but I emailed this seller as to where he was in West London, and who was it that "professionally prepared the truck for overland travel" the answer I got was, We are in Hanwell, West London. The car was modified by OEC International http://www.oecinternational.com/ may help someone

 

[roosterbell]

I was originally thinking that I would want an auto due to living in the city and the never ending traffic light to traffic light annoyance, but after reading into it online I then convinced myself that a manual would be better .

The actual reality is that most of the time my potential truck will be driving on road , or even on tracks when off road. I dont want to test it to its limits over rocks or through mud baths ( I have seen all sorts on youtube) , I want to cruise through cities and down dusty tracks , and down some tracks in England , if there are any left. So an auto would be fine for this , even better for the roads and city.

There do , or did last week seem to be a lot of manual's for sale on Ebay, and mostly every one of the sellers states that they are rare , and the one to have.

I don't need a front locker , I just dont want to be stuck one day and think to myself , ah , if I had locking diff at the front then I could pull myself out. I then tried to google what a landrover 110 has for instance, I know modern ones have traction control, but what about before traction came in , Do they just have a central diff ? not a rear one aswell, does anyone know here ? where I am coming from is , if Land Rovers dont have 3 diffs then why do I "need" one, or three in this case.

 

[karl webster]

LR only have the centre diff untill lockers are added at a big cost. Unless someone corrects me.

I agree that if you have the option of all three lockers then go for it. I personally think that the truck i listed on here forsale.If it had the lockers it would have been forsale for more than its up for. I have a feeling ive seen it on ebsy befor for a higher price. There has been a few man on ebay but more so the 24v ones. What are you looking to spend ?

Karl

 

[Chris]

...and that is why I am always pulling them out! I have three lockers, they have one.

Good machines if you like that sort of thing, but don't confuse the fact that they don't have front and rear lockers with them being so good that they don't need them. They ain't that special. Having lockers often means that you can get out of trouble in style. I think that the reason so many Landies get broken is because the get thrashed.

Have a look at this clip of me pulling Snowy out. Lockers in, tick-over, no drama, nothing broken.

There is a man says some naughty words so be warned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQcErzeA ... re=related

 

[Andrew Prince]

To add my 2c, I wouldn't get too hung up on only considering manual - buy the best truck you can in terms of maintenance and mechanical condition. Auto or manual, each has its pluses and minuses but there's really not a lot in it, certainly not enough to outweigh other factors.

 

[roosterbell]

Thanks for the welcome. And offer of finding one , that would be great to draw on all this info. available on this forum.

 

[roosterbell]

That video is sums up the feeling of "yeah three diffs, nice one , I like my vehicle, its great , I am great for choosing it, and my vehicle is better than yours " and the person getting towed could be thinking , "yeah import model , good car but I am stuck here without full diff possibilities" (I know its a Mitsubishi) I dont want to get stuck, but if I do , I want to know that I did what I could to prevent it in the first place by buying the UK model (more money no doubt but we are in the UK so lucky old us, thanks Toyota Japan for the diffs)

Land rovers break down , and no multiple diffs as standard.


The issue would be how much money have you got for one , so the answer is maybe 7k

 

[Chris]

Well the moral really is what ever you drive, wherever you go, just make sure you have a mate nearby with a UK spec Landcruiser

He's bound to be a nice chap who has all the kit to get you going!

Chris

 

[Ben]

I was originally thinking that I would want an auto due to living in the city and the never ending traffic light to traffic light annoyance, but after reading into it online I then convinced myself that a manual would be better .

The actual reality is that most of the time my potential truck will be driving on road , or even on tracks when off road. I dont want to test it to its limits over rocks or through mud baths ( I have seen all sorts on youtube) , I want to cruise through cities and down dusty tracks , and down some tracks in England , if there are any left. So an auto would be fine for this , even better for the roads and city.

There do , or did last week seem to be a lot of manual's for sale on Ebay, and mostly every one of the sellers states that they are rare , and the one to have.

I don't need a front locker , I just dont want to be stuck one day and think to myself , ah , if I had locking diff at the front then I could pull myself out. I then tried to google what a landrover 110 has for instance, I know modern ones have traction control, but what about before traction came in , Do they just have a central diff ? not a rear one aswell, does anyone know here ? where I am coming from is , if Land Rovers dont have 3 diffs then why do I "need" one, or three in this case.

landrover have never offered diff locks apart from centre.

where as toyota have been offering them for years.

i can only imagine that landrover have never offered them because they know there axles which are made of chocolate, would break almost instantly due to the huge shock forces that are involved when an axle is fully locked, and a wheel is spun and then suddenly finds traction.

welcome to the club!

 

[Olazz]

The actual reality is that most of the time my potential truck will be driving on road , or even on tracks when off road. I dont want to test it to its limits over rocks or through mud baths ( I have seen all sorts on youtube) , I want to cruise through cities and down dusty tracks , and down some tracks in England , if there are any left. So an auto would be fine for this , even better for the roads and city.

Rooster, with the above statement why do you think you need lockers? Where in the cities you visit or the dusty tracks you intent to drive on, do you feel lockers will be necessary?

IMHO the whole import/UK truck issue... every car that comes from Japan is an import. I have a Jap truck that has some features not found on "other market" cars; primarily zero rust. This whole "mines a UK spec and better than yours don't you know" is just a load of KAK!

Buy the best one you can afford, (lockers or not, manual or Auto )and if you ever get stuck in a city needing lockers... something must have gone horribly wrong!

7k should buy you a decent cruiser.... you'll not regret it.

 

[Cptsideways]

I have to say that is a bargain, its a jap car so its likely to be rot free, that means an easy life when it to comes to servicing/fixing stuff. Lots of essential travel kit with it that would cost 3-4k alone. Lots of hours put into it too. Plus its been there & done it. Overlanding you won't be needing lockers that much (if ever)

Sell the roof tent, buy a rear seat (ebay for £50 or less)


As it happens that's the same spec as my Jap 80, no lockers f+r has not proven to be an issue to date.