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Injector Swap

Cheers, nothing bloody straight forward with it though.

No, it's been a right pain in the arse hasn't it - at least you're getting there now though

I've no oil in the engine! When I took the oil out the sump plug fell in to the bucket, which is fine. I emptied the oil today in to a container so I can bring it to the dump, and as I poured it I heard something heavy drop in to the container. It wasn't the plug, but the washer. So I can put the plug back to the sump but without a washer, which won't work.

I thought I heard some swearing earlier

So I thought if I'm going to wait for a washer I could at least test the fuel lines before everything goes back.

See what others think, but I don't think you can...

As an aside, is there a hand pump on these Land Cruisers for when you run out of diesel? Not that I plan to, but it occurred to me today that if I did I should pump it?

Theres a black primer button on the top of your diesel filter; you press that a few times until you can't press it anymore!
 
I thought I heard some swearing earlier
Not so fussed with the washer, as people reckon you're meant to change them after every service. I've never done that on any of the cars I've had. I was swearing more when I realised the clamp went missing!

Theres a black primer button on the top of your diesel filter; you press that a few times until you can't press it anymore!

Fantastic! Cheers.
 
I’ve oil in the engine now, most of the things are hooked up except the intercooler. I wanted to have as much on as needed but still be able to see if I had any diesel leaks from the injectors.

Techstream was initially a pain in the arse, refusing to accept the injector code I had for Cylinder 1. Couldn’t understand what was going on, tried multiple things like entering in the old code to see if it was actually working (it was) and a few restarts of the laptop and software. Decided to enter the codes from Cylinder 4 to 1 instead of 1 to 4 - and it worked up to Cylinder 1 where it wouldn’t accept the code. Numpty head here mistook the D on the last two digits as a 0!

Entered codes, two 5 second starts, and it started, and was quite lumpy. In the troubleshooting I was doing I disconnected the injector for cylinder 1, so reconnected it.

I’ve got two lights on the dashboard, but given I’ve not got the intercooler in place (which has two sensors of some description) and it was running 3 injectors to begin with, I am going to clear the codes tomorrow as I put everything back on the engine and try it again.

There was no smoke, no metallic banging, nothing I could hear that worried me. It sounds like a diesel, and I imagine with the throttle body exposed with no intercooler it’s going to be rather loud. From what I can see too I don’t have any fuel leaks so far, but will try and do the pressure test once everything’s bolted on and I’ve reset the codes.

But I think I’ve won, well I hope I’ve won.
 
Rightio well so - bolted everything back on to the engine. Plastic shroud and all!

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Fired straight up, and it’s much quieter now. Not the bag of spanner’s it once was! Didn’t have to clear any codes, simply putting everything back together resolved that. Gave it a bit of a rev, sounds great to be honest. I need to study the Aussie box of magic to dial that in.

Thanks everyone for the help, sorry for practical hijacking the thread as well. Tomorrow hopefully I’ll sit down with the part numbers I’ve gathered for the next person who wants to do this job, and in a month or two I’ll have the video put together to hopefully help with this task - or at least show you how not to do this job.

Thanks again guys, really could not do it without any of you really.
 
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Excellent work and result, hopefully you still have some hair left after all that !!
 
Thanks all! My hair was thinning before the work, I definitely think I've a solar panel on my head now!

Everything, so far, is fine. It's driving well, no black smoke at all now and I dare say the MPG's are getting better too (although there's more to that which I'll go in to in a separate thread).

Anyway, as promised, the part numbers to do the job as of 2022 - including the bits I broke and lost.
Part NumberDescriptionCost (from Mr.T - exc VAT)Quantity
23681-30010Seal, Nozzle£2.70 each4
23701-30030Injector Pipe£130.851
23702-30030Injector Pipe£130.851
23703-30030Injector Pipe£130.851
23704-30030Injector Pipe£130.851
90904-30013Gasket£9.685
11213-30021Gasket, Cylinder£13.211
11176-30011Seat, Injector£3.414
96721-19017Seal£3.754
90209-10021Washer£1.364
23743-30011Clamp, Injector Pipe£6.181
23679-30021Screw£5.534
90105-08374Bolt£2.614

The "Clamp, Injector Pipe" isn't required if yours are in a good condition. Mine wasn't, as one side had been put on wrong so the rubber had deteriorated. This is only for one part of the clamp too, so I imagine if you want the full clamp you'd order two of these.

The "Screw" (part no. 23679-30021) is an upgrade part, holding the return fuel rail to the injectors. The old one is a 17mm head, this new part has a 12mm head. This, apparently, is so it doesn't foul the gaskets - which I can well believe being the case. The bolts (part no. 90105-08374) are a must, because - well you know why!

Injectors were purchased through Specialist Diesels, and they list the part number of 23670-30080. Best way to find them though would be to use Google, as when I called up they said they didn't do injectors for my Land Cruiser. But when I Googled the part number given to me by Toyota, their own website listed the specific injector. I think this is because they rely on the old part numbers, but when they have new part numbers it's put under an alias kind of thing and probably not visible to them over the phone. Those injectors cost £705.00. They also come with the old copper washers for some reason, so don't rely on the refurbed injectors to come with the washers you require. Buy these from Mr.T.

I'm currently dying at the moment with a non-COVID head cold/flu, so I feel amazing. I'll get the video together next month and put it here as a guide to whoever needs it.

A Word About TechStream/Injector Programming
I will say that you should get the injector compensation codes from the injectors before they go on to the car. I didn't do that, I started taking photos of them when I put them in, which isn't ideal. D's look an awful lot like 0's, and 0's look like 6's if there's a scratch or a bit of dirt on the plug. From what I found mistaking D's for 0's is that Techstream won't allow you to enter incorrect codes. I don't know how it knows, the hexadecimal code must follow a specific pattern so it won't allow you to type in the wrong digits. I wouldn't fully trust this though, so triple check your codes before you enter them on Techstream.

For those who don't know, the codes follow a hexadecimal format. The digits will range from 0 to F. So while there are letters on there, if you see a 1 it will be a 1, it won't be an I or and L.

Techstream, without a doubt, was the biggest pain in the arse to get right through the whole process. For me it was worse than the panic of breaking the stretch bolt. You can't fully rely on the eBay bought ones. I will also say though that, I think, any issues relating to viruses is down to how the software behaves on the computer. I don't think there is any malicious code being run on my copy, but that requires further testing when I have 10 minutes. That said, you would be better to run this on a PC/Laptop that doesn't talk or isn't connected to the internet in any way.

Other Tools
To add to the tools listed previously, I really do think this job should be tackled with:
  • Carb cleaner (and lots of it)
  • Compressed air/can of compressed air
  • A decent quality torque wrench (upwards of £90)
  • 14mm dowel (if you can't find 15mm, which I couldn't)
  • An old shirt
  • Blue/white roll - and lots of it
The torque wrench I used first (Silverline, £20?) thing I feel contributed to the breaking of that bolt, as well as a drop of oil running down the thread. For this reason you are best to soak the thread wells with carb cleaner then blast it with compressed air. It gets messy! But then the difference in feel of tightening the bolts, even with a looming panic attack, was amazing. You feel like you have granular control over the torque of the bolt when tightening, and inspires confidence on a job that can go very wrong very quickly. I ended up buying one from Halfrauds for £90 that comes with a certificate of calibration, as I read it is manufactured by the UK's leading/most respected tool maker. I am looking to upgrade my 1/2" wrench as well with the same one at some point when I need it.

Also wrap the dowel in the old shirt and dowse it in carb/brake cleaner and give it a good on rub. The seats want to be mirror perfect.

Don't Fully Rely On Techstream
I started this by running the injectors through Techstream to see their operating parameters. Cylinder 1 was running at -1.0 while the rest were in and around 0.0. I can tell you, as you have seen, the injector on cylinder 1 was quite bad, with cylinder 4's injector following behind. If I had relied on Techstream on it's own the injectors wouldn't have been changed, and I reckon I'd have had a much dirtier messier job on my hands if I had allowed it to carry on. If you have the rattle on cold, if you're announcing the pope on start up, I think you should take that as the sign to get the injectors changed.

Sludge
I think I'm quite lucky (so far) that the sludge was concentrated on the top of the engine and didn't get down to the sump. The sump had never been off (as far as I could tell) and was incredibly clean, backing up what I saw with the camera. I would budget for more frequent oil changes to make sure you clean the engine (rather than relying on engine flush stuff). I've got 15 litres of Petronas Syntium - as it was cheap at the time and I quite like the stuff - and I plan to do an oil change in about 3,000 - 4,000 miles time. I won't be removing the sump or rocker covers to see the state of it after this as I don't think it's needed, but the next (at least) 3 oil changes I'll be doing at short intervals before going back to 8,000-10,000/12 months.

Time
You could well do this on a Saturday. I was doing other things like cleaning the EGR and adding the Aussie box of magic so I got sidetracked, and Techstream took a good 2/3 hours to get working properly on the laptop. That all eats in to your time, so if you're more organised than I am you'll do all of this the night before and just get cracking on it on a Saturday.

Once again thank you to everyone on this thread for the help and support!
 
Perfect write up and breakdown of parts/numbers for those of us that have yet to do it, (and we will).
Thank you.
 
Looking at mine, I doubt it's ever been changed. I'll add one to my next list of service items
Well serviced the 120 today and changed this gas filter thing with a cheaper version off eBay.

I cut open the old one and it's a odd one way valve thing with some sort of filter at one end. I assume to catch the oil and egr gasses. Anyway, here's a pic...
 

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Hard to tell, I don't see that on any service record ( I have all the Toyota ones) and I've never changed it, so could well be 141k miles
 
Well done mate, thanks for sharing, warts and all ! It's always interesting how people do things differently in their posts.
BTW, is it still a case of MWHTC ?
 
Great video well done! Hows it all running now?

Good warning about those b*stard incorrect torque specs too! Lucky getting that snapped bolt out!!!!
 
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