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Is anyone interested in trying to arrange some kind of group buy?
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Hi Toby,
I have been debating this extra lip and if it makes a difference - from memory
I don't think it does but will look at it in a bit more detail when I do an
axle rebuild in a week or so.
From memory the lip was only there on the rear seals.
Usually I find that it's the contacts in the solenoid that goes on the
starters - when I have time I might sit down and find a source for just the
contacts - there are a few companies that just sell the contact kits.
I've used a couple of Milners starters on LCs and also on a Trooper and they
are much more lightweight and they don't have the same level of waterproofing.
I don't think that I will use them again.
Interestiing note about the Knuckle bearings. I have some Milner wheel
bearings here and they are as far as I can tell made by Timken, judging by the
part number
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Julian Voelcker
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
I have been debating this extra lip and if it makes a difference - from memory
I don't think it does but will look at it in a bit more detail when I do an
axle rebuild in a week or so.
From memory the lip was only there on the rear seals.
Usually I find that it's the contacts in the solenoid that goes on the
starters - when I have time I might sit down and find a source for just the
contacts - there are a few companies that just sell the contact kits.
I've used a couple of Milners starters on LCs and also on a Trooper and they
are much more lightweight and they don't have the same level of waterproofing.
I don't think that I will use them again.
Interestiing note about the Knuckle bearings. I have some Milner wheel
bearings here and they are as far as I can tell made by Timken, judging by the
part number
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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| > Longfields are listed as available for the FJ80 - suppose they would fit
| > other 80 series? 4 pieces for perhaps =A3500 sounds worth a go.
| > http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/
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| Is anyone interested in trying to arrange some kind of group buy?
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I read about these from the rock crawlers on the 80s cool site, and they pointed out that the CV joint effectively acts as a "fuse" in the system. Make it stronger (I think these are case-hardened) and you break something else instead, like a half-shaft or a diff.
If I were that worried by the prospect of breaking one in the middle of nowhere I would buy 2 or 3 spares from Milners, and invest the cash I'd saved in learning how to change them in the bush!
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| > other 80 series? 4 pieces for perhaps =A3500 sounds worth a go.
| > http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/
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| Is anyone interested in trying to arrange some kind of group buy?
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I read about these from the rock crawlers on the 80s cool site, and they pointed out that the CV joint effectively acts as a "fuse" in the system. Make it stronger (I think these are case-hardened) and you break something else instead, like a half-shaft or a diff.
If I were that worried by the prospect of breaking one in the middle of nowhere I would buy 2 or 3 spares from Milners, and invest the cash I'd saved in learning how to change them in the bush!
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Re > If I were that worried by the prospect of breaking one in the
middle of nowhere I would buy 2 or 3 spares from Milners, and invest the
cash I'd saved in learning how to change them in the bush!
Agreed.
Ability to do change out a CV in the Bush is standard practice in
Australia. Also, the Aussies don't seem to go for OEM CV's.
Will be equipped to do this when hit Africa next April - have picked up
a small vice that will bolt on nicely to the ARB bullbar
Cheers
Niall
Re > If I were that worried by the prospect of breaking one in the
middle of nowhere I would buy 2 or 3 spares from Milners, and invest the
cash I'd saved in learning how to change them in the bush!
Agreed.
Ability to do change out a CV in the Bush is standard practice in
Australia. Also, the Aussies don't seem to go for OEM CV's.
Will be equipped to do this when hit Africa next April - have picked up
a small vice that will bolt on nicely to the ARB bullbar
Cheers
Niall
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Hi Julian
Re > Usually I find that it's the contacts in the solenoid that goes on
the
starters - when I have time I might sit down and find a source for just
the
contacts - there are a few companies that just sell the contact kits.
You can buy a kit from Toyota for this. I have the relevant Toyota part
numbers - picked up from an Aussie site - can get them on Friday and
forward.
I was going to get the kit and give the starter into an Auto
Electrician to do the work.
Cheers
Niall
Re > Usually I find that it's the contacts in the solenoid that goes on
the
starters - when I have time I might sit down and find a source for just
the
contacts - there are a few companies that just sell the contact kits.
You can buy a kit from Toyota for this. I have the relevant Toyota part
numbers - picked up from an Aussie site - can get them on Friday and
forward.
I was going to get the kit and give the starter into an Auto
Electrician to do the work.
Cheers
Niall
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I am approaching this from a slightly different angle. Rather than have a
deliberately weak link in the system I am looking to strengthen everything.
I like the idea of a "fuse" but with the tyres I use and the driving I do
the standard "fuse" is too weak.
It will be a gamble but if you fit strengthened CVs and shafts and then cryo
treat the ring and pinion you should end up with a toughened front end. The
gamble is where the "fuse" has moved to, is it still the CVs (good thing)
or is it now the transmission (bad thing)?
Ian
96 HDJ80
deliberately weak link in the system I am looking to strengthen everything.
I like the idea of a "fuse" but with the tyres I use and the driving I do
the standard "fuse" is too weak.
It will be a gamble but if you fit strengthened CVs and shafts and then cryo
treat the ring and pinion you should end up with a toughened front end. The
gamble is where the "fuse" has moved to, is it still the CVs (good thing)
or is it now the transmission (bad thing)?
Ian
96 HDJ80
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Weak point will probably become the half shafts, might be UJ's. Half shafts
are much more work to change than CV's, particularly when they break off in
the axle.
I was looking at the US CV's more as an alternative and quite cheap source -
$750 for two birfield's and half shafts seems quite cheap to the =A3500 X 2
CV's + =A3half shafts from Toyota UK. Wear rate is the issue though, thought
the heat treatment would aid that.
Malcolm Bagley
Stafford UK
FJ45 '75 & FJ45 '76
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are much more work to change than CV's, particularly when they break off in
the axle.
I was looking at the US CV's more as an alternative and quite cheap source -
$750 for two birfield's and half shafts seems quite cheap to the =A3500 X 2
CV's + =A3half shafts from Toyota UK. Wear rate is the issue though, thought
the heat treatment would aid that.
Malcolm Bagley
Stafford UK
FJ45 '75 & FJ45 '76
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Hi Niall,
What do you need the vice for?
The hardest part of a CV job is seperating the CV from the half shaft -
here I use a length of scaffolding pole and drop the CV and halfshaft in
it until the halfshaft drops out. When I normally do it, it only takes a
couple of drops, however when I have shown others it typically takes 5-10
mins of continually dropping the dammn thing.
However, if you are llikely to be changing CVs regularly or to be in an
area where you don't have access to a bit of scaffolding tube, you can
actually put a spot of weld on the haldshaft and forget about the
circlip.
The circlip is only really there to stop the halfshaft sliding into the
diff - if you look at where the halfshaft enters the diff you can see the
wear point where the two items normally sit - if you put a spot of weld
on the CV side of this wear, it will stop the halfshaft from sliding into
the diff and removes the need for the circlip on the CV end.
It also makes it easier to put back together becauser you can put the
halfshaft in first, ensuring you don't damage the inner axle seal in the
process and then slip on the CV once it is in place.
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
What do you need the vice for?
The hardest part of a CV job is seperating the CV from the half shaft -
here I use a length of scaffolding pole and drop the CV and halfshaft in
it until the halfshaft drops out. When I normally do it, it only takes a
couple of drops, however when I have shown others it typically takes 5-10
mins of continually dropping the dammn thing.
However, if you are llikely to be changing CVs regularly or to be in an
area where you don't have access to a bit of scaffolding tube, you can
actually put a spot of weld on the haldshaft and forget about the
circlip.
The circlip is only really there to stop the halfshaft sliding into the
diff - if you look at where the halfshaft enters the diff you can see the
wear point where the two items normally sit - if you put a spot of weld
on the CV side of this wear, it will stop the halfshaft from sliding into
the diff and removes the need for the circlip on the CV end.
It also makes it easier to put back together becauser you can put the
halfshaft in first, ensuring you don't damage the inner axle seal in the
process and then slip on the CV once it is in place.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Hi Niall,
Yes I know, but actually the prices are still stupidly high - looking at
it the other day for a Colorado the solenoid was around ?100 + VAT by
itself.
However I have seen eleectrical suppliers that can provide the contacts
only (which is the usual problem) for only a few pounds.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
Yes I know, but actually the prices are still stupidly high - looking at
it the other day for a Colorado the solenoid was around ?100 + VAT by
itself.
However I have seen eleectrical suppliers that can provide the contacts
only (which is the usual problem) for only a few pounds.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Perhaps making flies for fly fishing (big flies for big fish!)
I like the idea of a little light vice but would have thought weight would
be an issue, perhaps one vice in a large group of vehicles that were
carrying onboard welding gear etc.
Malcolm Bagley
Stafford UK
FJ45 '75 & FJ45 '76
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I like the idea of a little light vice but would have thought weight would
be an issue, perhaps one vice in a large group of vehicles that were
carrying onboard welding gear etc.
Malcolm Bagley
Stafford UK
FJ45 '75 & FJ45 '76
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Alright Julian
Re> What do you need the vice for?
To hold the half shaft while I hit the CV with a brass hammer... - but
a bit of scaffold tube sounds like the right job!
Might pick your brains on the replacement techniques when getting stuck
into the job.
Thanks
Niall
Re> What do you need the vice for?
To hold the half shaft while I hit the CV with a brass hammer... - but
a bit of scaffold tube sounds like the right job!
Might pick your brains on the replacement techniques when getting stuck
into the job.
Thanks
Niall
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Hi Jon,
I'll have to dig a bit deeper into the EPC!
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I'll have to dig a bit deeper into the EPC!
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
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Hi Niall,
You would need a heavy vice, sometimes it takes a lot of hitting to
knock the CV off that way - invariably you have the shaft and cv at an
angle and so the circlip is always in the wrong place - using the
scaffolding pole gives you more of a chance to seperate the two without
braking the circlip or damaging the shaft.
having said that a length of scaffolding pole isn't light - you should
consider doing the spot weld.
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Julian Voelcker
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
You would need a heavy vice, sometimes it takes a lot of hitting to
knock the CV off that way - invariably you have the shaft and cv at an
angle and so the circlip is always in the wrong place - using the
scaffolding pole gives you more of a chance to seperate the two without
braking the circlip or damaging the shaft.
having said that a length of scaffolding pole isn't light - you should
consider doing the spot weld.
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Julian Voelcker
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Re Vice - It's only a small one I got in LIDLE for 15 euro - weights
about 2 kg - but very handy
I'll leave my welding gear at home - but surely one could be rigged up
from an Auxhaulary battery in an emergency!
Cheers
Niallo
Re Vice - It's only a small one I got in LIDLE for 15 euro - weights
about 2 kg - but very handy
I'll leave my welding gear at home - but surely one could be rigged up
from an Auxhaulary battery in an emergency!
Cheers
Niallo
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Re> You would need a heavy vice
Lidl's finest!!
RE > having said that a length of scaffolding pole isn't light
Would go well with the kitchen sink though!
Read about the spot weld technique before alright. Might run with it.
Cheers
Niall
Re> You would need a heavy vice
Lidl's finest!!
RE > having said that a length of scaffolding pole isn't light
Would go well with the kitchen sink though!
Read about the spot weld technique before alright. Might run with it.
Cheers
Niall
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Hi Niall,
There is a very nice protable Mig called a ReadyWelder that I know a few
guys in the US take out on the trail with them ;-)
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Julian Voelcker
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
There is a very nice protable Mig called a ReadyWelder that I know a few
guys in the US take out on the trail with them ;-)
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On 14 Aug 2007, at 11:44, Malcolm Bagley wrote:
It may be they are just registered as the good old "two axle rigid
body" description. The chances of your average DVLA bod knowing to
type 'FJ45" are slim.
Didn't someone import some 40 and 45 series from New Zealand a few
years ago? Could have been diesel BJ's
Regards
Neill Watson
It may be they are just registered as the good old "two axle rigid
body" description. The chances of your average DVLA bod knowing to
type 'FJ45" are slim.
Didn't someone import some 40 and 45 series from New Zealand a few
years ago? Could have been diesel BJ's
Regards
Neill Watson
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