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Just a quick question on the periphery.
When maintaining our TLC's we all use cordless drivers of one kind
and another. Of which they all eventually consume batteries. I have a
Chinese made driver from a French joint owned supermarket in
Sarajevo, so getting a spare battery is a no no. (It cost 11 quid!)
But having successfully inserted new tagged nicads bought at Maplin
in my B&D screwdriver, I was prepared to do the same for the driver
until I saw the prices at Maplin ! I could stand it for 3 batteries
for the B&D but not larger quantities for the other driver. I might
as well buy another throwaway driver, but what a waste of a good tool.
So the question is, does anyone recommend a good source of nicad
tagged batteries at the right price please? I have trawled Google and
fleabay but not found a great discount from the Maplin prices.
Cheers
Jon
Linslade, Beds
'92 HZJ80 ex UN Bosnia surplus
 
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On 10/9/07 19:53, "toyj80" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Er... No we don't...
Jeremy
HDJ81 etc etc
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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From: "Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] tools we use
You mean all your drivers have cords attached to them Jeremy :)
Marco
 
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Jon
I don't think you'll get a decent capacity AA sized NiCad battery for less than =A31. Adding tags seems to double this, but surely a man of your ability could solder on his own tags?
I suppose the other - free - option if it runs on roughly 12v is to go corded and hitch it up to the car battery!
CB
| So the question is, does anyone recommend a good source of nicad
| tagged batteries at the right price please? I have trawled Google and
| fleabay but not found a great discount from the Maplin prices.
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That's a great idea. Any cordless tool battery at the end of it's life,
rip out the cells and wire it with clips or a lighter-plug. This will
work on anything from, say, 9.6 volt up to 18 V models. Because of the
lower Ri (internal resistance) in the car battery, even an 18 V model
should run well.
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Ugo Hu, Oslo, Norway
HDJ100, Auto, AHC, 2001; ex HZJ80
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:18:06 +0200, Christopher Bell
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Hello Jon well next time you must buy some extra batterie right away
with the cordles driver the first time! But most did now come with 2
batterie at some French joints here in France. Maybe you French joints
is a faux French joint.
 
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Thanks to all who replied to my admittedly off-topic question (though
I did excuse myself to the moderator).
I was concerned at one reply as you might expect -
JLJ wrote...
Er... No we don't...
SNIP
Sorry Jeremy perhaps you were being cynical or perhaps you were
annoyed that I should raise the topic, so I do apologise if that was
the case. Though subsequent helpful responses do put your opinion a
tad in the shade.
I for one have used my drill in a lot of maintenance tasks, which
apart from drilling holes at times in the dashboard as we all do,
have also included drilling a row of 3mm holes in the flats on the
nuts securing the top and bottom of the OEM Toy front dampers held in
very securely by Toy's high strength thread sealer. Its also been
useful for removing dashboard screws and the screws around the trim
in the back. Kind of removes the necessity for a third hand if you
see what I mean. I also know someone who has a cordless impact
driver that is amazingly efficient at running-up wheel nuts.
However, my thanks go to -
Marco - cheers, nice and pithy !
Chris - thanks for your faith in my skills Chris. I have tried
soldering onto batteries in the past but have never been that
successful. I am also wary of the explosive nature of nicads
especially at the point of heat injected by a soldering iron. But as
a materials physicist type of man I am sure you will have a
technical explanation to quell my fears on that one. They are 'C'
size by the way (sub C in the B&D driver).
Ugo - thanks form picking up Chris's point about making it cordless.
Yes I could do, its a 9.6 volt, so you say it should be OK on 12. But
I really want to use it about the house, so it would mean relegating
it to the garage only. But yes, if I do have to buy another then it
would be a good use for the old unit.
Benoit - yes I would always do so, but such supermarket bargains
don't come with all the accessories that you would get from a tool
supplier. It was a one-off and very cheap. In fact although now
spending more time in Serbia I have seen that this supermarket is
opening-up there, and just south of Belgrade there is a town where
they have just opened a branch. I am over there again next week
(sorting out my new flat) so I might just take a trip to see what
they have. At their prices it would be worth buying 2 whole drivers,
still cheaper than buying replacement UK batteries to solder in.
In the UK we have two excellent companies selling mail order
(Screwfix and Toolstation) each has a myriad of drivers all with 2 or
even 3 spare batteries and with a one hour charger. I drool at the
pages - even have a local branch of Screwfix near my UK home - but
the Scotsman in me is trying to find ways of not spending cash. I
could even buy a spare battery from them for a branded model and
break it down and solder into my expiring driver's battery pack.
The supermarket by the way is called 'Interex'. Very definitely not a
faux French venture as you will see by the excellent range of cheap
French wines and marvellous packs of frozen vegetables from several
of your national companies.But I digress.
Thanks all
Jon
Linslade, Beds
'92 HZJ80 ex UN Bosnia surplus
 
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| Chris - thanks for your faith in my skills Chris. I have tried
| soldering onto batteries in the past but have never been that
| successful. I am also wary of the explosive nature of nicads
| especially at the point of heat injected by a soldering iron. But as
| a materials physicist type of man I am sure you will have a
| technical explanation to quell my fears on that one. They are 'C'
| size by the way (sub C in the B&D driver).
I've done it successfully (bodging up the 1950's vintage battery/dynamo
lighting on my trusty old bicycle), admittedly on a slightly larger D
cell.
The trick is to sand down the terminals until they are clean & smooth,
then using a really hot soldering iron (I held the shaft in a candle
flame to "superheat" it) get a blob of solder onto the terminal
*quickly* to avoid heat soak into the battery.
Then one can tin the wires and make the remaining connections at
leisure.
physicist....
On the other hand maybe I am suffering from cadmium poisoning, which
would account for the rubbish I write...
Chris
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On 13/9/07 16:03, "toyj80" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Jon
Neither cynical nor annoyed. Just a simple statement of fact - not everyone
does. I don't when working on my car and there are plenty like me.
That's all, nothing to be concerned about as you might expect.
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Hello the Jeremy, well I must say with some honest thet you must be
some only guy I know with no wire free screwsdrivers. Well I have 3
and yes I am use them mostly every day. But we say in France we are
not all born to go cook in the same eggshells, non?
 
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Hello the Jeremy, well I must say with some honest thet you must be
some only guy I know with no wire free screwsdrivers. Well I have 3
and yes I am use them mostly every day. But we say in France we are
not all born to go cook in the same eggshells, non?
 
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Hi guys,
If by 'cordless screwdriver' you mean a bulky vibrator shaped object
with a puny motor in the handle, I tried it a long while ago and found
it quite useless. It wouldn't move any tight screw or bolt or do it
up properly.
What's the secret then?
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80 (auto)
On 9/13/07, Benoit Bernard <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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I'm with Roman.
What am I missing here?
Pete
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Hi guys,
If by 'cordless screwdriver' you mean a bulky vibrator shaped object with a
puny motor in the handle, I tried it a long while ago and found it quite
useless. It wouldn't move any tight screw or bolt or do it up properly.
What's the secret then?
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80 (auto)
 
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Salut Benoit
I bought one - a Bosch as it happens and the only thing it is good for is
screwing into very soft wood, like garden fencing.
As for the car, don't use 'em like I said.
Chacun a son go=FBt, je crois...
Jeremy
On 13/9/07 19:13, "Benoit Bernard" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
one
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So come on then.
What cordless screwdrivers do you use. All the ones I've tried could hardly
put a screw into a marshmallow. As for removing stiff screws, forget it.
What am I missing?
Pete
 
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I remember the first time I ever used a cordless was to drive in a 4" 12
screw into a garden post, and thinking when it goes in as far as it will I
will then finish it off by hand, but couldn't move it at all, but it was a
12v drill not an electric screwdriver.
Chas
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I think the pistol shape "screwdriver" is the more common version. Some of
the newer ones are now quite incredible, quite small and light with good
battery life and an impact mechanism to tighten and loosen.
One Roofers putting tin cladding on buildings routinely use an impact
"screwdrivers" with self tapping bits to screw the sheets straight onto
steel angle usually 1.6mm but sometimes 3mm.
I don't use them much on vehicles because there are not a huge amount of
places where you can get access or it's worth it for one of two screws.
Malcolm Bagley
Stafford UK
FJ45 '75 & FJ45 '76
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Oh yes the guys I must be making some misundertake about them
screwsdrivers. I have one Makita and two chienese ones from large
French hardware chainstore. But yes they is all pistol like shape and
the screw sometimes break before that moteur stop. It can make
drilling holes too. I do not know about any vibrator things, may be my
wife do before we married.
 
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Now look at what I started, enough enough !!
Sorry Julian, I just wanted help with acquiring some batteries and
stirred a hornets nest.
It just seems that my cheapo drill, having the capacity to drill 3 X
3 mm holes in 6 of Mr toys 14mm nuts without the battery failing,
makes it something of an exception, well, according to some of our
members. And Benoit seems to have found imaginative uses for a
cordless tool that only a Frenchman could imagine ! That's where we
draw the line I think.
So lets get back to more mundane things lads, sorry.
Cheers
Jon
Linslade,Beds
'92 HZJ80 ex UN Bosnia surplus
 
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My colleague from England say you must be a prince of a man. I only
unerstand some of that which may be to say you are too nice. Well OK
we need nice guys in this list too!
 
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