Sort of 5 hours ish for me. All depends what ferry we book too. But if we coordinate (heaven forbid) our efforts then we could be all on the same boat. I'm looking forward to it very much, but I have to say I'd really rather not just drive there and back on my own without seeing another sole on the road. Not just for the reasons already stated, but it sort of give the whole trip a point. Not that invading Clive's place doesn't have meaning, but it is a shared experience. We could even have t shirts. Stickers, sandwich boxes, pens. Oh it's a merchandising dream. Yes I am kidding.