Rustproofing, updating methods and products.

[Tractionman]

New screws yeah, what about the rusty areas I'm seeing then ?
Has this been prepped and treated with Krown before ?

 

[Raj]

Krown before ?

Yes it’s treated with Krown. This was like this before Krown application so hopefully rust will stop where it is. Prior to Krown, old rust was not removed.
I got new bleed screws as the garage told these screws will break if they try to open them.

 

[karl2000]

It's got to be worth half a day with a wire brush, surely. Just to get the worst of it off.

Maybe krown does stop it, but it looks fkin awful !

 

[Raj]

agree Karl. AHC components are badly rusted. Now those are visible atleast. When I got the car, this whole area was just thick clay Mud. Didn’t knew there were so many components hidden there. After one of you suggested me to take it to Truck cleaning bay, I got it cleaned few times to get to this stage.

 

[Tractionman]

I dont get that Raj, are you saying no prep was done prior to Krown, and that's the finish ?
That's flaking rust there mate, and will only get worse. No disrespect intended to you at all mate, but IMHO that can't be right.
As Karl says, looks fkin awful anyway !

 

[Raj]

no prep was done prior to Krown

Was told, with Krown we don’t worry about preparing or removing existing rust. It was sprayed over it so it won’t get worse

 

[Raj]

I would like to get all rust taken out before Krown treatment but I didn’t find any who can just clean rust underneath so got Krown sprayed directly. It’s not easy to get good professionals. It’s not always possible to do on our own. I got Differential oils, transfer oils and transmission oil changed few months ago. Now I am changing them all again as they were leaking n not done properly. This is oil and we can see it dripping.
Imagine if I got rust treatment n painted with professional. I won’t know the defect until it’s broken. This is where Krown is useful, it works and we know where we stand

 

[Raj]

I paid about 2000£ for all those oil changes, within 6 months I ended up changing all those again another 2000£. I don’t mind paying as long as my Landcruiser is in perfect condition and job done perfectly but job not done properly is waste of time and has severe impact on Christoph’s (my LC) health. Which is worth more than money spent

 

[karl2000]

I got Differential oils, transfer oils and transmission oil changed few months ago. Now I am changing them all again as they were leaking n not done properly.

What was leaking Raj? Presumably you just have to top them up, or dont you trust anything they did?

This is oil and we can see it dripping.
Imagine if I got rust treatment n painted with professional. I won’t know the defect until it’s broken.

This is why a lot of of us do whatever we can ourselves. Apart from saving a few £ (which you can use to buy the best parts), at least you know exactly whats been done and to what standard.

This is where Krown is useful, it works and we know where we stand

i dont know much about Krown. I got rid of all the surface rust on mine, painted the chassis then used Lanoguard. Lano is clear and so doesn't cover anything up.

 

[karl2000]

I paid about 2000£ for all those oil changes, within 6 months I ended up changing all those again another 2000£

You paid 4K for oil changes?! wtf...

 

[Raj]

What is a car’s worth. It doesn’t matter how much it costs. If we are driving a car, it’s worth our life as we are depending on the car. It’s not what autotrader says as only we know what our life’s worth is

 

[Raj]

4K for oil changes?

Yes it’s approx that amount but it’s not just engine oil. It’s transfer oil, front n rear diff oil, AHC as well

 

[Raj]

for Accord I spent about 1000£ in last 1.5 years. Per autotrader it’s not worth even 1000£ but my friend whom I gave that car temporarily or if I was driving it, our lives are worth more than any Bentley or Rolls Royce on the market. That’s my logic with my cars. Touch wood they never troubled me. Life of any human is worth more than any car

 

[karl2000]

Yes it’s approx that amount but it’s not just engine oil. It’s transfer oil, front n rear diff oil, AHC as well

Personally I think thats crazy. Just for reference, when I got my LC, I had it serviced by a Toyota specialist - they did a full service including engine oil, front / rear diff oil, transfer case oil & ATF change - from memory it was about £350 or so.

Don't know about AHC, but can't see it making that much of a difference.

 

[Raj]

Karl it’s inflation

 

[Tractionman]

Inflation Raj, what, with helium ??

 

[Shayne]

I dont get that Raj, are you saying no prep was done prior to Krown, and that's the finish ?
That's flaking rust there mate, and will only get worse. No disrespect intended to you at all mate, but IMHO that can't be right.
As Karl says, looks fkin awful anyway !

Krown is not pretty , car goes up on a 4 poster gets jetwashed with water then jetwashed with Krown which displaces water like wd-40 .

It's not a dressing at all , bit like spraying it with penetrating oil .

Hence i wish i'd have gone at mine with Aquasteel before visiting Krown just to get the look .

Was under my truck yesterday wondering about it and while mines in incredibly good condition for its age I think because of the Krown applied about 4 years ago my entire prep for when i do Aquasteel can be done in a couple of hours with a stiff brush and degreaser . A wire brush would be overkill .

It needs to be done because the Krown has seeped under loose factory chassis paint making it flake which is surely a good thing because loose paint creates the ideal environment for rust .

 

[Tractionman]

Not at all convinced with the Krown Shayne, which you used to think was brilliant, so surprised to hear you mentioning Aquasteel.
Also cannot believe that after a jet wash with water in every nook, cranny and void, that Krown then sprayed on the wet surface gets into, and displaces all that aforementioned water.
Flaking paint or rust, just creates a new patch for the rust to keep going regardless.
I used to be a firm believer in Aquasteel but after the last lot no more. It was not working as previously, (new bottle from the manufacturers), and before going too far, gave up and dumped the lot. I'm guessing that along with many other different manufacturers of goods, it has been messed with for a bigger profit.
Just a stiff brush and degreaser for prep, wow !
We all have our own beliefs, so whatever works best for anyone.

 

[Shayne]

What i mean is i can rub the worst effected parts smooth with my fingers so unless i'm going to take everything back to shiny new metal and prep with acid etch primer I reckon the Aquasteel will fuse just as well and it is after all just a rust converter and primer with the added advantage it dries black even without rust to convert . It's supposed to be top coated .

I can appreciate the Krown is unconvincing because its not at all designed to treat rust , instead its aimed at preventing rust .

Didn't somebody on here have a nearly new truck Krown treated , assuming it was rust free then it would be interesting to know if its stayed that way .

 

[Shayne]

Here's some Aquasteel i spilt on a dirty plastic sheet