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Seeking forgiveness from the collective/ I just couldn't help it.
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Fuel consumption, less than 20 on short journeys but will do 25 on the motorway cruising at 70 ( very tall gearing).
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VW could not cure my diesel Golf. It would not even start so I bought a new petrol Golf. I recently checked the MOT history of said diesel Golf and it's still on the road!!
Too be fair 20 on short journeys isn't horrendous..... the 25 on long trips would probably be the same with 3.5 tons behind so still not bad.... real world add 2 to both figures and that's where my 80 sits ....it has done 30 plus but that was a very long run at 55mph on motorways
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That's probably better than your petrol 90.
yep you're about right. I don't think I've ever seen 25 achieved on a run with the V6 which I find disappointing. Still, its a whole lot better than a petrol 80.
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Yep a reset. Although he has recommended changing the NS bank cam sensor as it could come back so he's getting one to install at some stage. It will be the last VW I own though, although I may be tempted to try something with the mighty 4.2 V8 TDi installed.
In the real world though the 3.0V6 is all a Touareg needs.
In the real world though the 3.0V6 is all a Touareg needs.
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Right ho, back with this Bastxxd of a thing. shortly after my last post it reverted back to form and started to run on 5 again so back in the workshop it went. I thought I would do some research and learn a bit more about it.
Firstly I replaced the cam sensor, which was incredibly difficult to find, let alone get to ( VW recommend engine removal) down the back of the engine under a fuel pump. This had to be changed with the help of a mirror and a 1/4 drive ratchet with 10mm socket ( 10 min to change, 4 hours to access). this got rid of the fault code but didn't cure the cutting out of the N/S bank.
After a few other checks I deduced it wasn't a fuel issue so I looked at the ECU and having had a word with Camco at Warrington I sent the ECU to then to get the exact program put on another one. £350 later and it runs perfectly. It took about 8 hours of time to re assemble with it all being new to me. This has been a journey of learning about something completely new, I was convinced it could not be major and I was right.
Now its running as it should so I'll preserve the Cruisers and run this through the winter at least.
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The research.
useful when working from below.
Firstly I replaced the cam sensor, which was incredibly difficult to find, let alone get to ( VW recommend engine removal) down the back of the engine under a fuel pump. This had to be changed with the help of a mirror and a 1/4 drive ratchet with 10mm socket ( 10 min to change, 4 hours to access). this got rid of the fault code but didn't cure the cutting out of the N/S bank.
After a few other checks I deduced it wasn't a fuel issue so I looked at the ECU and having had a word with Camco at Warrington I sent the ECU to then to get the exact program put on another one. £350 later and it runs perfectly. It took about 8 hours of time to re assemble with it all being new to me. This has been a journey of learning about something completely new, I was convinced it could not be major and I was right.
Now its running as it should so I'll preserve the Cruisers and run this through the winter at least.
The guilty parties
The research.
useful when working from below.
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I think that says it all. The Achilles Heel of many modern era vehicles, especially for the DIY'er, is the overly complex electronicery, often locked down requiring bespoke, dealer/specialist only diagnostic software. Back in the day it would be basic mechanical failures that would kill a vehicle. Nowadays such failures are rare by comparison.
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OMG .. Less than a grand. You jammy devil lol. That thing twists it's driveshafts wit all the torque apparently. They make Cromoly ones for it.
You are spot on about the V6 TDI engine in the VAG cars. There's a fella on You tube with an 11 second 1/4 mile Audi allroad that hits 60 in sub 4 seconds and still gets 50 mpg on a run !!!
He uses it as a towcar for his Audi 80 racecar.
You are spot on about the V6 TDI engine in the VAG cars. There's a fella on You tube with an 11 second 1/4 mile Audi allroad that hits 60 in sub 4 seconds and still gets 50 mpg on a run !!!
He uses it as a towcar for his Audi 80 racecar.
+1 Also I think ECU's get blamed when the real fault can't be found - it's often the last thing on the flowchart.
Especially dealers will say 'ECU' to make older problem cars 'go away' as at dealer rates they're uneconomic to fix, and unless it's a 'special' car people will just get rid of it.
Well done fixing it, be a great car now you've sorted that - ridiculous they want the engine out to change the sensor - I guess there's basically NO room in there with the big V8!
Especially dealers will say 'ECU' to make older problem cars 'go away' as at dealer rates they're uneconomic to fix, and unless it's a 'special' car people will just get rid of it.
Well done fixing it, be a great car now you've sorted that - ridiculous they want the engine out to change the sensor - I guess there's basically NO room in there with the big V8!
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V8 ???
This was the point I had to get to to get to the cam sensor which was about 14" below the orange connector. The ECU I replaced was next to the heater intake, a few mins to swap ( metal cover).
Soundproofing panel and wiper mech replaced. It would have been impossible without removing that panel, about 1.5" gap.
Pretty much there, its not quite as complicated as it looks the more you become familiar with it.
This, with the Aisin 6 spd autobox would be a delight in an 80 or 100, I don't think it would be an advantage in a 200 series although the tranny is the same.
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Well been using it for 3 weeks now, mainly for one off deliveries and other work knocking around. Been averaging 26 MPG. Went to Sleaford Saturday for some tyres ( 100 mile round trip) did 29 mpg there and 28 mpg back.
Went yesterday into Wales to pick up some ARB camping stuff then to Bristol then back ( 400 miles) averaged 26.1 mainly holding it at 70-72. Its big advantage is its high gearing and ability not to be revved over 2K rpm.
Comparing it to the 120 I would usually use for the same trip I'd say the VW would edge it in fuel, engine noise minimal but so is the 120, wind noise on the VW is less but only by a bit, it does feel heavier because it is and the cabin is a better place to be because it is plusher.
At the moment the seats in the back are down and its being used basically as a van.
Went yesterday into Wales to pick up some ARB camping stuff then to Bristol then back ( 400 miles) averaged 26.1 mainly holding it at 70-72. Its big advantage is its high gearing and ability not to be revved over 2K rpm.
Comparing it to the 120 I would usually use for the same trip I'd say the VW would edge it in fuel, engine noise minimal but so is the 120, wind noise on the VW is less but only by a bit, it does feel heavier because it is and the cabin is a better place to be because it is plusher.
At the moment the seats in the back are down and its being used basically as a van.
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Right we're back on the non Cruiser page.
I've now covered 3K miles, fuel consumption has dropped a bit since I've discovered the " Engage Warp Drive" pedal and is down to an average of 24.7 mpg.
Reliability has been spot on and everything works as it should.
As I've been using it as a work vehicle I treated it to a " direct replacement" DAB Bluetooth unit with Carplay and lots of other stuff I might need ( or not need).
It seems pretty good for £300 and I can always be contacted which is the main thing.
I also treated it to some new tyres, a high load rating and 275/45/20 instead of 40 profile. A little quieter and a slightly better ride.
V10 van.
The air suspension deals with this kind of work admirably ( usually 500-600Kg)
So its " so far so good".
I've now covered 3K miles, fuel consumption has dropped a bit since I've discovered the " Engage Warp Drive" pedal and is down to an average of 24.7 mpg.
Reliability has been spot on and everything works as it should.
As I've been using it as a work vehicle I treated it to a " direct replacement" DAB Bluetooth unit with Carplay and lots of other stuff I might need ( or not need).
I also treated it to some new tyres, a high load rating and 275/45/20 instead of 40 profile. A little quieter and a slightly better ride.
V10 van.
The air suspension deals with this kind of work admirably ( usually 500-600Kg)
So its " so far so good".
