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thanks guys. 
definetly engine oil as its black, and was dripping off the bottom pulley.
im pretty sure it wasnt leaking before i got stuck in the muddy wet hole. i was giving the engine and gearbox a fair amount of abuse as i was franticly trying to get out of the deep water i was stuck in, and was very heavy on the loud pedal and slamming it from 1st to reverse and back, as quick as i could.
just removed the electric fan and jet washes the engine and engine bay.
good news is its not leaking from anywhere near the cambelt so im hopeful thats unaffected.
looking at it it can only be leaking from the oil seal behind the bottom pulley on the front of the engine block.
need to find the part number and order a new seal, going to go genuine on this as i think for the extra cost its worth it, as id hate to kill what is a rare and expensive engine.
dont know what to do about Lincomb, i really want to come, but my english exams are more important. so revising is more of a priority that fixing the truck.
definetly engine oil as its black, and was dripping off the bottom pulley.
im pretty sure it wasnt leaking before i got stuck in the muddy wet hole. i was giving the engine and gearbox a fair amount of abuse as i was franticly trying to get out of the deep water i was stuck in, and was very heavy on the loud pedal and slamming it from 1st to reverse and back, as quick as i could.
just removed the electric fan and jet washes the engine and engine bay.
good news is its not leaking from anywhere near the cambelt so im hopeful thats unaffected.
looking at it it can only be leaking from the oil seal behind the bottom pulley on the front of the engine block.
need to find the part number and order a new seal, going to go genuine on this as i think for the extra cost its worth it, as id hate to kill what is a rare and expensive engine.
dont know what to do about Lincomb, i really want to come, but my english exams are more important. so revising is more of a priority that fixing the truck.
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I feel for you Ben, lots of people would give up and play golf!
I have to admit I found I didn't like lockers as you get deeper in before you get stuck!......
Mud and crud on oil seals genuine or not = them wearing out or failing quickly
My local pay and play site is a night mare for aggressive gritty claggy mud, Ive done a couple of challenges there and usually have to replace lots of bits like oil seals alternators power steering pumps.....
I have to admit I found I didn't like lockers as you get deeper in before you get stuck!......
Mud and crud on oil seals genuine or not = them wearing out or failing quickly
My local pay and play site is a night mare for aggressive gritty claggy mud, Ive done a couple of challenges there and usually have to replace lots of bits like oil seals alternators power steering pumps.....
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I feel very sorry for you Ben after all the effort you've put in 
but once your studies are out of the way you'll be as happy as a pig in whatsit, up to your elbows in grease and grime, and as they say 'if you don't break it you can't fix it' 
but once your studies are out of the way you'll be as happy as a pig in whatsit, up to your elbows in grease and grime, and as they say 'if you don't break it you can't fix it' 
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Just seen the video Ben, looks challenging that lane especially with an oil leak fuel starvation and a flat tyre ! Know how you feel though having to limp a truck home due to plenty of off roading abuse then having to spend hours getting it back to its form of glory. Hope you sort it soon though mate !
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jeepmadmike said:
golf!
the giving up bit is tempting, but.............ive gone too far and spent far too much money to give up now.
+ im not a quitter!
im really not a fan of pay n play's, they just seem to destroy vehicles, and after a few hours i get bored anyway.
adrianr said:
thanks mate.
AndyCook said:
thanks Andy.
ive been followig your thread with great interest, sounds like a great trip.
Hollinsclough is what ripped my back bumper off last time.
k9rdj said:Sorry to hear you're having more troubles again Ben
Didn't we drive that 'lane last time you led us round Shropshire?
Perhaps we'd better give it a miss next weekend?
Dave
thanks Dave.
yes we drove it, and it was a state then.
i dont normally drive it anymore, because its just a mess.
i never intended on driving it, but as we were passing i thought id show the lad who was with me, what is Shropshires muddiest lane. he said go on i want to see you drive it, and i guess i didnt need asking twice.
wont be doing it on your trip down to Shropshire mate.
found a few other interesting lanes though that i might include.
Cossack said:I feel very sorry for you Ben after all the effort you've put in
thanks Chas.
feeling quite positive about my exams, and will be happy once there done and passed!
just medicals and police checks and i should be ready submit the final visa application.
up to my elbows in grease and grime.
i dont actually enjoy that. in fact if im honest i dont enjoy working on my truck!
i like making bits for it like bumpers, drawers, rock sliders etc. but spending 5 hours stripping and re-building a front axle, or changing a rear wheel bearing really isnt my idea of fun.
fridayman said:After working on my truck last weekend I've decided I'm never going to drive through mud again. Ever. Ever!
i dont mind mud too much, its clay that i hate.
Shaun said:
Shaun said:Checked Daves blog out the other day too, some good pics/videos...
thanks Shaun.
Dave's (K9RDJ's) blogs are always a great read!
im up your way monday night, staying in a B&B ready for my carpentry assessment on tuesday.
would love to call in and see your [strike:3j0r2v41]cruiser scrap yard[/strike:3j0r2v41] collection of interesting 70's!
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ive been ridiculously busy the past week or so. to the point of getting up every day at 6am and getting home to have my dinner at 10pm.
for this reason ive not had any time to resize, upload, and post any pics. so this thread might suddenly become a bit disjointed.
oh well......................
update time.
so Saturday just gone, i drove to Karls and bought a replacement panhard rod, and then went to milners and bought a 3rd new set of front panhardrod bushes, which turned out to be super pro ones. i also got some new track rod ends, but more on that later.
i knew my panhard rod was a little bent, but it was now a bit more bent, maybe due to the ratchet strap.
old one off, and compared to the new one.
the chassis side of the old panhard rod bush, looked like this.
so 2 new sets of panhard rod bushes have been fitted, and these did initially seem to fix the death wobble.
but then it came back.
so what im now thinking is.................................
im going to fit new track rod ends, as i couldnt get it tracked when i tried, because the old ones are seized solid inside the bar, and there a little bit worn anyway. im then going to get it tracked.
im wondering whether if the tracking is a bit out, then that is causing the big heavy tyres to start to shake, and that shaking is then wearing the new bushes out, until theyve then got excessive movement in them, and then the death wobble takes over every time i drive it.
so new panhard rod fitted, i turned my attention to the leaking axle.
the axle wasnt leaking before i stripped it down and fitted the locker, but it was afterwards, despite me being very careful when pulling and pushing the half shafts in and out.
stripped it all down.
decided after removing the oil seal on the other side was a bit tricky, that id knock a quick tool up to make the job a bit easier.
this is what i came up with.
so i push it inside the seal, and then turn the 2 13mm nuts in opposite directions, which spreads the legs on the puller. once thats done i can then use a hammer to tap the other end which should pull the seal out.
worked quite well, but the seal still came out in bits.
all done.
or so i thought.
found it leaked almost immediately.
despite me doing the job properly and carefully fitting the new seal.
milners will be having the other 2 seals i brought back, and hopefully also be giving me the money back for the seal ive fitted which immediately leaked.
im going to get some genuine ones and take the milners ones back and show them that they arnt anything like the genuine ones. the milners ones are just black rubber with made in the uk stamped on them. the genuine ones have a metal ring around them.
so that was Saturday and my truck was back together.
Sunday was spent trying to revise for English exams, but i did end up speaking to my girlfriend for 5 hours on skype first.
so bank holiday monday was laning time!
the plan was to go laning and driving some south Shropshire lanes that ive not driven for a few years, as a bit of a reconnaissance trip, to see which lanes are worth including in a trip im leading in a few weeks.
drove a few lanes ive not driven before, and some that didnt look like theyve been driven for a long time.
i love this little ford on a byway.
had a load of horses aproach on one of the lanes that crosses a field.
had to quickly shut the gate once i was through, and then i had to shoe them out of the way so the other lad could get his nissan through.
this would be a bloody great lane if there wasnt an oil/gas pipe line 5ft above the lane.
motorbikes can still use it but not 4x4's
shame as theres a lovely ford at a few hundred meters past the pipe line. god knows how permission was ever granted to lay a pipe line at that height above a byway.
would be nice to go down there with a digger and dig the byway a few feet lower beneath the pipes!
this was the last pic before my camera battery died.
so unfortunately no pics of my truck being the most stuck its ever been, with a foot of water in the drivers foot well.
so my mate in the Nissan towed my truck the 30 miles to my mates house. i then went and did a carpentry job with him that wed arranged to do, and then at 10pm once wed finished working he towed my truck back to mine.
i really didnt want to go work, but couldnt turn down hundred quid cash for a few hours work.
so last night i jet washed the inside of the truck out. the joys of having no carpets, means the rubber bungs in the floor pan can be popped out and the inside of the truck hosed out!
jet washed the engine and engine bay as it was covered in a thick layer of clay, and also removed the electric fan.
so the top pulley, is bolted to the water pump and used to have the viscous fan mounted to it. the pulley below it is where the oil was dripping from.
so this morning i was out working on my truck at 6am.
i need to remove the bottom pulley to get to the oil seal behind it.
so ratchet with extension tube on, wedged against the chassis, and a quick turn of the ignition key, and the bolt was loose!
bolt off followed by alternator belts.
couldnt quite get my puller in to remove the pulley.
going to have to take the rad out to give me the room.
decided to remove the cambelt cover to inspect the belt.
all looks good and no sign of oil.
it looked like was going to be a nice day.
so decided to leave all the doors open when i went to work at 7.20am, to hopefully dry the inside out a bit.
i had to race home at dinner time to close all the doors as by now the sky was very cloudy.
good job as its been raining all afternoon.
oh well we havnt had much rain lately.
ordered a new seal from toyota today, should be here tomorrow.
so once ive fitted the new seal and done an oil change, still need to fix the death wobble and electrical problem(s).
time for a beer i think!
for this reason ive not had any time to resize, upload, and post any pics. so this thread might suddenly become a bit disjointed.
oh well......................
update time.
so Saturday just gone, i drove to Karls and bought a replacement panhard rod, and then went to milners and bought a 3rd new set of front panhardrod bushes, which turned out to be super pro ones. i also got some new track rod ends, but more on that later.
i knew my panhard rod was a little bent, but it was now a bit more bent, maybe due to the ratchet strap.
old one off, and compared to the new one.
the chassis side of the old panhard rod bush, looked like this.
so 2 new sets of panhard rod bushes have been fitted, and these did initially seem to fix the death wobble.
but then it came back.
so what im now thinking is.................................
im going to fit new track rod ends, as i couldnt get it tracked when i tried, because the old ones are seized solid inside the bar, and there a little bit worn anyway. im then going to get it tracked.
im wondering whether if the tracking is a bit out, then that is causing the big heavy tyres to start to shake, and that shaking is then wearing the new bushes out, until theyve then got excessive movement in them, and then the death wobble takes over every time i drive it.
so new panhard rod fitted, i turned my attention to the leaking axle.
the axle wasnt leaking before i stripped it down and fitted the locker, but it was afterwards, despite me being very careful when pulling and pushing the half shafts in and out.
stripped it all down.
decided after removing the oil seal on the other side was a bit tricky, that id knock a quick tool up to make the job a bit easier.
this is what i came up with.
so i push it inside the seal, and then turn the 2 13mm nuts in opposite directions, which spreads the legs on the puller. once thats done i can then use a hammer to tap the other end which should pull the seal out.
worked quite well, but the seal still came out in bits.
all done.
or so i thought.
found it leaked almost immediately.
despite me doing the job properly and carefully fitting the new seal.
milners will be having the other 2 seals i brought back, and hopefully also be giving me the money back for the seal ive fitted which immediately leaked.
im going to get some genuine ones and take the milners ones back and show them that they arnt anything like the genuine ones. the milners ones are just black rubber with made in the uk stamped on them. the genuine ones have a metal ring around them.
so that was Saturday and my truck was back together.
Sunday was spent trying to revise for English exams, but i did end up speaking to my girlfriend for 5 hours on skype first.
so bank holiday monday was laning time!
the plan was to go laning and driving some south Shropshire lanes that ive not driven for a few years, as a bit of a reconnaissance trip, to see which lanes are worth including in a trip im leading in a few weeks.
drove a few lanes ive not driven before, and some that didnt look like theyve been driven for a long time.
i love this little ford on a byway.
had a load of horses aproach on one of the lanes that crosses a field.
had to quickly shut the gate once i was through, and then i had to shoe them out of the way so the other lad could get his nissan through.
this would be a bloody great lane if there wasnt an oil/gas pipe line 5ft above the lane.
motorbikes can still use it but not 4x4's
shame as theres a lovely ford at a few hundred meters past the pipe line. god knows how permission was ever granted to lay a pipe line at that height above a byway.
would be nice to go down there with a digger and dig the byway a few feet lower beneath the pipes!
this was the last pic before my camera battery died.
so unfortunately no pics of my truck being the most stuck its ever been, with a foot of water in the drivers foot well.
so my mate in the Nissan towed my truck the 30 miles to my mates house. i then went and did a carpentry job with him that wed arranged to do, and then at 10pm once wed finished working he towed my truck back to mine.
i really didnt want to go work, but couldnt turn down hundred quid cash for a few hours work.
so last night i jet washed the inside of the truck out. the joys of having no carpets, means the rubber bungs in the floor pan can be popped out and the inside of the truck hosed out!
jet washed the engine and engine bay as it was covered in a thick layer of clay, and also removed the electric fan.
so the top pulley, is bolted to the water pump and used to have the viscous fan mounted to it. the pulley below it is where the oil was dripping from.
so this morning i was out working on my truck at 6am.
i need to remove the bottom pulley to get to the oil seal behind it.
so ratchet with extension tube on, wedged against the chassis, and a quick turn of the ignition key, and the bolt was loose!
bolt off followed by alternator belts.
couldnt quite get my puller in to remove the pulley.
going to have to take the rad out to give me the room.
decided to remove the cambelt cover to inspect the belt.
all looks good and no sign of oil.
it looked like was going to be a nice day.
so decided to leave all the doors open when i went to work at 7.20am, to hopefully dry the inside out a bit.
i had to race home at dinner time to close all the doors as by now the sky was very cloudy.
good job as its been raining all afternoon.
oh well we havnt had much rain lately.
ordered a new seal from toyota today, should be here tomorrow.
so once ive fitted the new seal and done an oil change, still need to fix the death wobble and electrical problem(s).
time for a beer i think!
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thanks guys.
i find there just isnt enough hours in the day to get everything done, that i want to get done.
havnt had chance to do anymore on the brit-pig yet.
decided to brave the rain.
drained the rad.
it really wasnt much fun lying on the gravel under the truck, in the rain, with water dripping off the truck into my ears, eyes and face!
fortunately im not the sort of man to complain!
dirty rad out.
gave me a much better view and much more room.
pulley came off very easily with the puller.
quite a bit of oil on the back of it.
gave it a clean with a rag and engine de-greaser.
so thats the seal that has failed and dripped oil every where.
im hopeful i can change it from this side, without having to strip anymore of the engine down.
time for dinner now!
i find there just isnt enough hours in the day to get everything done, that i want to get done.
havnt had chance to do anymore on the brit-pig yet.
decided to brave the rain.
drained the rad.
it really wasnt much fun lying on the gravel under the truck, in the rain, with water dripping off the truck into my ears, eyes and face!
fortunately im not the sort of man to complain!
dirty rad out.
gave me a much better view and much more room.
pulley came off very easily with the puller.
quite a bit of oil on the back of it.
gave it a clean with a rag and engine de-greaser.
so thats the seal that has failed and dripped oil every where.
im hopeful i can change it from this side, without having to strip anymore of the engine down.
time for dinner now!
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my mum often reminds me that she still wanted that rug, and just because it was in the garage gathering dust, that didnt mean i could use it for working on my truck and get it covered in oil.
at this point i usually tell her its a hideous rug, and why on earth would you want it in the house!
