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LJ78 Build Thread

Thanks guys. :thumbup:

I think I've sorted out the rear diff lock being stuck in, issue! :icon-cool:

Removed the actuator this morning before work.

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And stripped it down.

Pretty rusty inside and the motor was seized solid. :doh:

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This end cap/top hat section was the worst as its really pitted from the tin worm. :thumbdown:

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If I was still down in Melbourne I would have got this electro plated, but as the electro plater let me down very badly the second time I tried using them, I've given up on them.

We will be living back in Melbourne again soon so I will get it electroplated next time I pull it off.

For now I gave it some rust treatment.

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Started cleaning and reassembling the rest of the actuator.

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With new O rings, silicon sealant and grease.

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I jacked the back of the 78 up so both wheels were off the ground.

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And looked inside the diff where the little toothed wheel on the end of the actuator pushes and pulls this toothed rod across.

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So this is with the locker engaged.

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And after flicking it across with a screw driver it was in the unlocked position! :dance:

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I suspect it had been permanently engaged for a while and maybe thats why it snapped some teeth off the crown wheel. :think:

It did feel a bit tight when I drove it home, but there were that many issues with this vehicle when I bought it I wasnt sure what was making it feel a little different to drive. :|

The top hat section came up OK after the acid had done its thing.

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So then I took it outside for a few coats of etch primer

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I will give it a few coats of enamel and then get it bolted back on to the actuator and then I can fit it back on the diff and hopefully get the locker working from the switch. :pray:
 
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Apart from being seized, my rear axle actuator didn't look too bad for its age Ben.

My front one on my 1995 80 simply disintegrated in my hands when I removed it.
 
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Interesting pics of the actuator, never seen one in detail before. :thumbup:

Also never had a factory locking diff, wish I had two.
 
Looking good Ben! When i got my LJ78 a couple of years ago i was trawling your LJ70 build thread for tips, since then you seem to have gotten a lot closer and more relevant!

I've been conteplating drawers since I got mine, but it's been pushed further and further down the to do list by needing to catch up on years of delayed maintenance (this week, apparently alternator bushes don't work so well when they are a few mm shorter than spec).
Something i've not yet been able to resolve in the design for drawers is the kid seat mount. I looked at the ADR's early on but their compliant solution did not seem conducive to efficient storage in a 4wd. The OEM's tend to be able to get away with a lot more efficient mounting than the adr allows (which is not unusual).

I'm interested to see how you resolve it on this build. Although at the rate I'm going, my son might be out of the kiddie seat before I get to it.
 
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Thanks guys! :thumbup:

Blake where abouts in the country are you?

The child seat restraint points have been something I've been thinking about a lot lately and trying to design into my rear fit out. :)

I discovered recently that the little rusty plates that had been riveted to my floor pan, right at the back of the boot, which I removed and welded the holes up as they were causing corrosion, were actually the child restraint points that would have had to be fitted by the importer in order to register the car in this country. :icon-redface:

But I wouldnt have trusted them to restrain my dog, let alone my first born! :shifty:

They were just little plates with an M6 nut welded to the bottom held on with 2 rivets. :thumbdown:

So if that is deemed compliant and safe I dont think I will have any dramas with what I design and fit! :)

Anyway...........

I will go into more detail in my next update which is going to be a big one as I've put a good 50-60 hours into the build since my last update. :sleeping-sleep:

The rear bumper is finished and fitted, roof rack is fitted, wiring is done to the point where it starts and drives perfectly, spare tyre has been sourced, fitted to a wheel and is on the back of the car, Amayama have posted what I hope will be my last order for this build, the 50 litre water tank is in the boot and I'm busy designing and building the false floor, fridge slide and drawer system, and I'm also in the middle of modifying and fitting the bullbar with winch and driving lights. :icon-cool:

Hoping I will get an update up tomorrow if I dont get too many jobs through at work. :pray::pray:
 
This is the floor in my 4Runner, the top tether holes are the ones that are about in line with the rear of the wheel arch tie down points, not nearest the seat backs. They're an M6 or an M8 threaded hole in the floor pan.

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I've found the QLD rules and regs, and the VIC rules and regs, so they may shed some light on it all. What it looks like is that it needs a mod plate to be done for it.

Hope that helps a bit,

Ed
 
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I'd get in touch with one of the Victorian Engineers to check requirements because some of the QLD tethers look like they'd work fine with a drawer system so it can't be impossible.

Looking forward to the next update!
 
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Saw the new bumper on Facebook and all I'll say is its perfect. I might end up copying it in future myself. Can't wait to see the build process ben went through to get it like that
 
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Thanks guys. :thumbup:

Rear bumper took far longer than I'd have liked,although finishing the exhaust was part of that job and that cost me a lot of time. Worth it though, I'm really pleased with it. :icon-biggrin:

Mod Plate? Engineering? :shifty:

Whats all that then! :whistle: :lol:
 
Mod Plate? Engineering? :shifty:

Whats all that then! :whistle: :lol:

Sounds a bit like my trailer going from 750kg to 1200kg... it change on the rego papers when I added brakes, but that was it.

Joke is if it was home-made it wouldn't need engineering, but because it's been manufactured, it's a lot more hoops to jump through
 
Bintang singlet? Check.
Triple J stored as a radio preset? Check.
Well sorted Land Cruiser? Check.

You're in mate!

Owen
 
:lol: :thumbup:

OK update time! ;)

The cap off the rear diff lock actuator came up ok after a few coats of paint, not perfect as it is a bit pitted, but ok.

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I stuck the magnets back in position with silicon.

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And bolted it all back together.

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Refitted it to the diff, but the diff lock still wouldnt engage when turning the switch. :doh:

Then I found some damaged wiring that goes to the diff lock actuator, attached to the chassis at the back end one of the vehicle.

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That got soldered and heat shrunk.

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But still the bloody thing wont work. :icon-mad

So I will need to follow all the problem solving procedures in the FSM.

The big job over the last few weeks has been the rear bumper.

I put some masking tape on the body work to protect the paint work and started working out where I needed to cut my freshly folded steel in order to create the rear bumper.

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The end behind the rear wheels would need cutting on an angle, the same as the body work so that the standard mud flaps would work.

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And the other end needed cutting out to fit around the rear lights.

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I made a cut which allowed the wing to fit inside the rear section a little.

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And then marked the other cuts.

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Couldnt decide how best to do the notch around the lights.

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But in the end I went for a nice round cut out.

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A bit more cutting.

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Followed by a cardboard template of the piece of steel I would need to fill in the corner with.

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Once I was happy with the sections I had cut for the passenger side I copied those measurements onto the drivers side sections and cut them so both sides were identical.

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And clamped them in position.

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Started tacking it together with the MIG.

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I cut the steel for the corners.

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And bent them in the vice.

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Tacked in position.

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Other side.

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I needed to fill in around the rear lights next.

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Clamped a sheet of copper underneath the rear section, the reason being if I just used normal steel then it would probably end up welded to the bumper, where as by using a piece of non ferrous copper underneath there is no chance of it sticking to the ferrous steel above. :ugeek:

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Next I needed to fill in the rounded section but as the little sheet metal roller I've got is only meant for 1mm sheet I couldnt roll the sheet myself.

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Instead I cut a section out of some pipe.

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Last piece went in.

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And then the whole thing could be removed to be fully welded.

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Back to the bumper the next day and I had turned the car around as I had taken it for a test drive.

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The passenger side was all welded.

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But the drivers side wasnt.

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So the same as the other side...........

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Opted to do all the cutting and grinding outside this time though as the amount of dust in the garage from the previous day was crazy!

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Cut the end cap pieces.

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And set about welding them on.

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This weeks top tip.

If your going to be grinding the welds down afterwards as you want nice rounded corners, never cut the metal to come right to the edge, otherwise you will end up grinding all your weld away and whatever your making will fall apart. :)

Instead you want the edges to be set back roughly the thickness of the metal, so in this situation 3mm all the way round. :ugeek:

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To manage distortion from all the welding heat going into the metal, put plenty of little tacks on all the way round.

Dont make the tacks too big or they will affect the weld going all the way around and could cause little bumps.

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Once tacked its time to run round with the MIG.
I genuinely believe you could teach monkeys to MIG weld, it really isnt difficult! :obscene-moneypiss:

Sure it takes practice to get good welds but its not difficult. Once the gas pressure, wire speed and amps are all set properly on the machine its just a case of having the correct torch angle, keeping the torch the correct distance from the metal and moving along at the correct speed for what speed you have the machine set to.:think:

For these welds all I did was move along with the torch, no weaving, wiggling, nothing, nice comfortable position, steadying myself on the bench and weld. :icon-cool:

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Once that one was welded I did the same on the other section and then they were both almost finished.

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I needed to make the brackets to attach them next.

So I nipped out and got some steel.

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Cut the 100mm x 100mm x 6mm angle first.

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Marked where the holes needed to be to pick up on 2 of the chassis cross member captive nuts.

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Decided as I didnt want any visible fixings on my bumper, to use M8 bolts through the captive M10 nuts in the chassis.

So bolted the angle sections in position and then spot welded the M8 nuts on.

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Then I tacked the bumper sections to the angle.

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Cut some more 3mm sheet for the other mounts, these will be sandwiched between the 10mm thick towbar mounts and the chassis.

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Used some punches to mark through the cardboard for where the chassis captive nuts are.

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Then marked and drilled the 3mm sheet.

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Bolted them in position.

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And tack welded them to the bumper section.

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I looked at how the plastic sections will look when they bolt back on next.

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And realised I'd cocked up. :icon-redface:

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So I would need to weld some more steel on to fill in the gaps.

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Decided I'd come back to that once the bumper sections were next removed and instead turned my attention to the other mounts that were necessary to add some much needed strength to the wings.

For this I used 75mm x 10mm steel.

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Apologies for the dark pics, but these are the brackets pushed into position.

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Found some mounting bolts for them.

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And marked and center punched them ready for drilling.

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Drilled them on the pillar drill.

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And bolted them to the chassis.

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Cut a 200mm long piece of 100mm x 6mm corner to corner.

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And welded it to my brackets as a gusset to add lots of strength.

To avoid putting too much heat into my brackets and distorting them and because it didnt really need continuous weld all the way around, I chose to do alternate 50mm fillet welds. :icon-cool:

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As the exhaust needed to come through the rear bumper, so its fully protected off road, I need to put a 75mm hole through it.

Picked up a suitable hole saw.

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And got drilling.

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I designed it so that exhaust finishes just inside the rear bumper by 1-2mm.

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Once I was happy with the exhaust I removed it to fully weld it.

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I did encounter one major problem though that seriously annoyed me! :angry-screaming:

In order to get this last exhaust section up and over the chassis at the back I needed to remove the rear spring and shock on the passenger side. :doh:

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It was sitting slightly out of alignment, but I had a plan to fix that.

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I just needed to add a mount to pick up on the rubber exhaust mount bolted to the chassis.

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As I couldnt weld a permanent mount to the exhaust as it was already too tight getting the S bend exhaust over and around the chassis, I picked up a 75mm exhaust clamp.

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Bent up a piece of 2mm stainless steel and welded it to the exhaust clamp.

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Slotted the holes to give me some adjustment.

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Bolted it on and I was now able to pull the exhaust over to exactly where I wanted it. :dance:

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I then removed the bumper sections and welded in those little plates on the top that were needed, fully welded the mounting brackets on, drilled some 40mm holes for my reverse lights and welded on some half chain links to hook the mudflap chains on to.

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I then set the grinders up, one with an 80 grit flap wheel, the other a 60 and spent an hour smoothing all the welds down.

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Before finally wiping them down with thinners and spraying them black with the spray gun. :icon-cool:

*When were back in Melbourne and I can get good quality work done by reliable companies at a fair price again, they will get shot blast, electro plated and powder coated. :icon-biggrin:

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The next morning I got them on the bench and bolted the LED reverse lights in position.

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And bolted them onto the car.

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Started looking at how the plastics will fit.

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I'm just waiting for my new rear step to arrive from Amayama and then I can finish bolting all the plastics on.

I also need to modify and fit the mudflaps and towbar. :icon-biggrin:
 
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Roof Rack next...........

I would have liked a nice ARB rack but I couldnt justify the expense of them, not now anyway as I've still got lots to buy for this build and the other one. :shifty:

So I went with an alluminium one (to keep weight down as I really dont want to have loads of weight high up on the roof, makes no sense what so ever on a 4wd thats going to be driving some tough tracks) I found on ebay. :icon-cool:

This one.

*mine is slightly different as mine doesn't have a square mesh floor.

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Went to Brisbane and picked it up from a 3rd party freight warehouse.

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Something else to fill the Queen suite up with! :shifty:

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I must say I'm delighted with it! :dance:

The quality has surpassed my expectations! :clap:

Buying it sight unseen through ebay I was skeptical as to how good the quality would be and what all those alluminium welds would be like.

But their all beautiful TIG welds! :character-beavisbu:

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And all the brackets and stainless steel bolts looked good.

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I bolted all the brackets on.

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Nice to see it comes with proper rubbers to protect the gutters.

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I drove the 78 out of the garage.

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And my mate came to help me lift the roof rack on.

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Now the roof rack is fitted it wont fit back in the garage. :doh:

So its been relegated the back garden.

At first light Thursday morning I fitted the rest of the brackets to fix it down to the roof.

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I actually feel its sitting a bit too high, so I'm going to modify the mounts slightly to drop it down 30mm but I've decided to wait till were back in Melbourne as I've still got so much to do on my LandCruiser's.

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On the front I'm going to fit my Ironman light bar.

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Which just happens to be the perfect size! A few mm bigger and it wouldnt fit.

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Spare wheel mount went on.

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Dug out a spare wheel from my spare set of wheels.

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Slightly more negative off set than the wheels fitted but not much and the same width.

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Picked up a cheap 33" BFG KM1 for my spare and got it fitted.

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And bolted it onto the mount.

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Before I could drive it out of the garage I did lots of electrical work in between working on the bumper.

I found this FSM to be very useful.

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This page in particular as it details what wire does what on the connectors going to the instrument cluster.

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It helped me work out which wire goes to the temp gauge and after confirming which wire going from the ECU to the sensor on the engine was correct I was able to wire it up.

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The alternator appears to be charging properly, despite me not being able to work out where the wire is to go to that third terminal on the connector.

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I fitted the aftermarket glow plug timer under the dash.

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And wired it all up to the relay.

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Which I mounted in the engine bay.

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And now when I turn the ignition key on the glow plug light lights up.

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And the timer counts down 10 seconds for the pre heat.

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Theres still more work to do on the electrics but for now the dash and interior is almost back together.

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Here is some useful information regarding the child restraint points that I will need for my son, from a question I asked one one of the Facebook groups I'm in.

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Right I've run out of time now so the boot fit out and bullbar modifications and fitting will have to wait till next time.

Still lots to do but I'm getting there. :thumbup:
 
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OK update time! ;)

The cap off the rear diff lock actuator came up ok after a few coats of paint, not perfect as it is a bit pitted, but ok.

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I stuck the magnets back in position with silicon.

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And bolted it all back together.

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Refitted it to the diff, but stil lthe diff lock wouldnt engage when turning the switch. :doh:

Then I found some damaged wiring that goes to the diff lock actuator, attached to the chassis at the back and one of the vehicle.

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That got soldered and heat shrunk.

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But still the bloody thing wont work. :icon-mad

So I will need to follow all the problem solving procedures in the FSM.

The big job over the last few weeks has been the rear bumper.

I put some masking tape on the body work to protect the paint work and started working out where I needed to cut my freshly folded steel in order to create the rear bumper.

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The end behind the rear wheels would need cutting on an angle, the same as the body work so that the standard mud flaps would work.

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And the other end needed cutting out to fit around the rear lights.

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I made a cut which allowed the wing to fit inside the rear section a little.

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And then marked the other cuts.

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Couldnt decide how best to do the notch around the lights.

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But in the end I went for a nice round cut out.

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A bit more cutting.

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Followed by a cardboard template of the piece of steel I would need to fill in the corner with.

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Once I was happy with the sections I had cut for the passenger side I copied those measurements onto the drivers side sections and cut them so both sides were identical.

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And clamped them in position.

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Started tacking it together with the MIG.

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I cut the steel for the corners.

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And bent them in the vice.

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Tacked in position.

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Other side.

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I needed to fill in around the rear lights next.

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Clamped a sheet of copper underneath the rear section, the reason being if I just used normal steel then it would probably end up welded to the bumper, where as by using a piece of non ferrous copper underneath there is no chance of it sticking to the ferrous steel above. :ugeek:

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Next I needed to fill in the rounded section but as the little sheet metal roller I've got is only meant for 1mm sheet I couldnt roll the sheet myself.

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Instead I cut a section out of some pipe.

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Last piece went in.

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And then the whole thing could be removed to be fully welded.

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Back to the bumper the next day and I had turned the car around as I had taken it for a test drive.

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The passenger side was all welded.

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But the drivers side wasnt.

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So the same as the other side...........

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Opted to do all the cutting and grinding outside this time though as the amount of dust in the garage from the previous day was crazy!

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Cut the end cap pieces.

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And set about welding them on.

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This weeks top tip.

If your going to be grinding the welds down aftewards as you want nice rounded corners, never cut the metal to come right to the edge, otherwise you will end up grinding all your weld away and whatever your making will fall apart. :)

Instead you want the edges to be set back roughly half the thickness of the metal, so in this situation 1.5mm roughly all the way round. :ugeek:

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To manage distortion from all the welding heat going into the metal, put plenty of little tacks on all the way round.

Dont make the tacks too big or they will affect the weld going all the way around and could cause little bumps.

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Once tacked its time to run round with the MIG.
I genuinely believe you could teach monkeys to MIG weld, it really isnt difficult! :obscene-moneypiss:

Sure it takes practice to get good welds but its not difficult. Once the gas pressure, wire speed and amps are all set properly on the machine its just a case of having the correct torch angle, keeping the torch the correct distance from the metal, moving along at the correct speed for what speed you have the machine set to.:think:

For these welds all I did was move along with the torch, no weaving, wiggling, nothing, nice comfortable position, steadying myself on the bench and weld. :icon-cool:

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Once that one was welded I did the same on the other section and then they were both almost finished.

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I needed to make the brackets to attach them next.

So I nipped out and got some steel.

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Cut the 100mm x 100mm x 6mm angle first.

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Marked where the holes needed to be to pick up on 2 of the chassis cross member captive nuts.

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Decided as I didnt want any visible fixings on my bumper, to use M8 bolts through the captive M10 nuts in the chassis.

So bolted the angle sections in position and then spot welded the M8 nuts on.

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Then I tacked the bumper sections to the angle.

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Cut some more 3mm sheet for the other mounts, these will be sandwiched between the 10mm thick towbar mounts and the chassis.

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Used some punches to mark through the cardboard for where the chassis captive nuts are.

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Then marked and drilled the 3mm sheet.

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Bolted them in position.

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And tack welded them to the bumper section.

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I looked at how the plastic sections will look when they bolt back on next.

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And realised I'd cocked up. :icon-redface:

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So I would need to weld some more steel on to fill in the gaps.

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Decided I'd come back to that once the bumper sections were next removed and instead turned my attention to the other mounts that were necessary to add some much needed strength to the wings.

For this I used 75mm x 10mm steel.

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Apologies for the dark pics, but these are the brackets pushed into position.

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Found some mounting bolts for them.

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And marked and center punched them ready for drilling.

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Drilled them on the pillar drill.

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And bolted them to the chassis.

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Cut a 200mm long piece of 100mm x 6mm corner to corner.

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And welded it to my brackets as a gusset to add lots of strength.

To avoid putting too much heat into my brackets and distorting them and because it didnt really need continuous weld all the way around, I chose to do 50mm fillet welds. :icon-cool:

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As the exhaust needed to come through the rear bumper, so its fully protected off road I need to put a 75mm hole through it.

Picked up a suitable hole saw.

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And got drilling.

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I designed it so that exhaust finishes just inside the rear bumper by 1-2mm.

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Once I was happy with the exhaust I removed it to fully weld it.

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I did encounter one major problem though that seriously annoyed me! :angry-screaming:

In order to get this last exhaust section up and over the chassis at the back I needed to remove the rear spring and shock on the passenger side. :doh:

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It was sitting slightly out of alignment, but I had a plan to fix that.

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I just needed to add a mount to pick up on the rubber exhaust mount bolted to the chassis.

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As I couldnt weld a permanent mount to the exhaust as it was already too tight getting the S bend exhaust over and around the chassis, I picked up a 75mm exhaust clamp.

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Bent up a piece of 2mm stainless steel and welded it to the exhaust clamp.

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Slotted the holes to give me some adjustment.

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Bolted it on and I was now able to pull the exhaust over to exactly where I wanted it. :dance:

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I then removed the bumper sections and welded in those little plates on the top that were needed, fully welded the mounting brackets on, drilled some 40mm holes for my reverse lights and welded on some half chain links to hook the mudflap chains on to.

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I then set the grinders up, one with an 80 grit flap wheel, the other a 60 and spent an hour smoothing all the welds down.

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Before finally wiping them down with thinners and spraying them black with the spray gun. :icon-cool:

*When were back in Melbourne and I can get good quality work done by reliable companies at a fair price again, they will get shot blast, electro plated and powder coated. :icon-biggrin:

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The next morning I got them on the bench and bolted the LED reverse lights in position.

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And bolted them onto the car.

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Started looking at how the plastics will fit.

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We all complain about the cost of ready-made steel bumpers, but when you see the amount of fiddling about, getting it wrong, correcting it, decision making etc. that's gone into this, you can see where some of the money goes.

Great job there Ben, a bumper to be proud of, along with the rest of the build.
 
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Ben, I think the simplest solution for the top tether is to fit a cross bar that mounts to the body frame. I think that this could be set against the seat back, and would be the most unobtrusive solution available.

In the QLD requirements it talked about them, but I don't remember seeing them in the VIC ones.

Whatever you do, I'd talk to the engineer first as this is the one time you want to be following the rules... I know you'll over engineer it once you get the briefing of what is needed....
 
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Great job on the bumper mate, looks factory :clap:
When you making them for the 80.

With the locker might seem a daft question, did the magnets go back in correctly? (Ask me how I know lol)
 
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Question for you Ben, are you going to use the hi lift jack for the 78 and if so where are you going to put your mounts. I remember on lj70 you had your mounts on the bumpers. Are you putting rock sliders on it and putting mounts there?
 
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Ben,

The top tether thing has been bugging me... I then decided to look at how they did it in the VDJ76, the current version available in Australia.

Found the owners manual online, and the top tethers seem to be above the rear doors.

Around page 55 onwards in this one (2009 to 2012), and then page 66, and page 58 onwards in this one (2014 to present), and then page 70.

Hope those help - they also look like they'll clear where the drawers would go being mounted much higher up.
 
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