Query - Vibration in steering column

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Guys
Anyone any information on reducing/stopping the vibration in the
steering column? it stops after 65mph
Renate
IHDT white, 1992, LRFT, bashplate, TJM single wheelcarrier, safari
snorkey, 2.5" lift shocks and heavy duty coils
 
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Hi Renate,
This could be caused by a number of things. Try checking the
following:
Tyre/Wheel balance - something you could do yourself is to swap the
tyres front/rear to see if that makes a difference, otherwise get your
local tyre shop to check it.
Tracking - does it pull to the left/right at all? Before you get this
checked, soak the track and tie rod ends in WD40 or something similar -
if the tracking needs adjustment it will take longer/cost more if they
have to unseize the ends.
Whilst doing that, also check for play in any of the ends, this will
also cause steering wobble.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Julian
1) Wheel/ tyre balance has been checked, the tyres are 'revolved' twice
a year - this is fine
2) It does not pull to either the left or right - have tried all
through the gears and speed ranges - also fine
3) no time - this is not an excuse BTW, the problem is that in the work
I do I haven't the time to do the other bits you suggested - so its
going to have to go to a garage, I have no choice in this matter - Any
ideas to how much this will cost me?
I'm having all three of the remaining tyres replaced because they are
at the end of their lives and have ruptured, so the car is non-road
worthy (i.e. dangerous) at the moment, to drive. Maybe the garage can
do the other bits you suggested at the same time?
Regards
Renate
Julians reply:
This could be caused by a number of things. Try checking the
following:
Tyre/Wheel balance - something you could do yourself is to swap the
tyres front/rear to see if that makes a difference, otherwise get your
local tyre shop to check it.
Tracking - does it pull to the left/right at all? Before you get this
checked, soak the track and tie rod ends in WD40 or something similar -
if the tracking needs adjustment it will take longer/cost more if they
have to unseize the ends.
Whilst doing that, also check for play in any of the ends, this will
also cause steering wobble.
 
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Renate - in no particular order - wheel balance - wheel bearings -
swivel bearings - steering damper - track rod ends - trailing arm
bushes. You could ask a man who lives just over the Severn Bridge if you
could borrow his inspection pit and jacking beam for a couple of hours
on the weekend. You may fix the problem or at least diagnose it.
Gareth - near to the Severn Bridge. BTW - if you do come over - drive
below 60 mph - we do not want you veering over the side of the bridge
!!
 
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Hi Renate,
Our local tyre place has a sophisticated computer tracking system and
charge around ?45, although for the LC we don't necessarily need such
sophistication.
It really is worth getting the WD40 onto the track rod ends, I had my
tracking checked the other day and it is way out, but the tyre place
couldn't adjust it without removing the track and tie rods and putting
them in a vice to fee them, threatening that they might have to replace
the track rod ends as well because they could get damaged whilst
freeing up the rods.
I have been spraying the ends with WD40 every couple of days for a week
or so and over the w/e popped the rods off and managed to free the ends
up without having to resort to using heat, etc. It only takes a couple
of minutes to spray them and could save you ???s when it comes to them
being worked on.
One useful trick if you are replacing the ends is to buy some steering
rack covers (flexible rubber available from most auto factors) and then
put them over the track rod ends, after having smothered the threads
with grease and then use cable ties to seal the ends of the rubbers -
then all you have to do is to clip the cable ties and slide off the
protective rubbers to adjust. Keeping the threads covered in grease
and free from road grime will make them a lot easier to adjust in the
future.
They should be able to do it.
How much tread is left on the remaining tyre - it is best to have
roughly the same tread depth on each axle to avoid diff wind up
problems.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Gareth
to the man who lives hust over the Severn Bridge - please! I would
love to use your inspection pit and borrow your jacking beam....
Speed? its relative! I'm more concerned about those b****y tyres than
the steering damper - thing is, although I'm not planning to work this
weekend - a cheque for a nice tidy sum has not got to me yet - its been
over a month and my landlord is going to be miffed when he arrives
tonight and I can't magically produce the last bit of his rent - re the
tyres, I've booked a bloke to come over and replace the three tyres on
the Wednesday - but I'll have to cancel that too because unless that
cheque comes there'll be no going anywhere for the next two weeks
because the cheque will take 10 working days to clear.....I'm up s**t
creek without a paddle, and have already lost sleep over it.
I don't think there will be a weekend in S Wales for the foreseeable
future, nor the 5 Dec trip.
There are times when I think the best thing I can do is get rid of the
Beast so my hands are not constantly in my 'money pocket'
I'm quickly running out of options and spent the weekend pacing about
like a caged animal thinking "how the hell am I going to make ends
meet!"
Sorry about this Gareth, there are no more options left open to me - I
can't do anything for at least three weeks and my car will be left
abandoned when and where the tyres fail.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 11/15/04 12:06pm >>>
Renate - in no particular order - wheel balance - wheel bearings -
swivel bearings - steering damper - track rod ends - trailing arm
bushes. You could ask a man who lives just over the Severn Bridge if
you
could borrow his inspection pit and jacking beam for a couple of hours
on the weekend. You may fix the problem or at least diagnose it.
Gareth - near to the Severn Bridge. BTW - if you do come over - drive
below 60 mph - we do not want you veering over the side of the bridge
!!
 
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Julian
So this steering vibration is potentially serious then? I mean, the
rods and things etc.
Seriously, I don't have the expertise yet to deal with the seriousness
of these kinds of things
Renate
 
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Hi Renate,
It is only serious if you feel it getting noticeably worse.
If you have a spare 10mins, jack the front up and holding the tyres at
12 and 6 oclock, try wobbling them - this will indicate bearing issues,
that can end up being serious, although you will hear a grinding noise
from them before they go critical.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Julian
I do have an intermittent grinding noise when I turn one of the wheels
on occasions, but I don't know which back wheel it is even though I've
listened intently, sometimes it is there and other times its as quiet as
can be - I'm not sure whether its the bearing or grit/chippings
somewhere in the works.
Renate
 
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I had a front bearing problem which I left too late (half a week)
and the front hub assembly where the wheel bearings fit into got damaged.
The wheel bearings actually disintegrated!
=A3148 + VAT from Toyota for the new part.
Bottom line is: if you hear anything from the front wheels - check
them bearings.
Rgds,
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Dennis
'91 1HD-T
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Den
The front is fine - I've had all the bits in and around the wheels thoroughly checked when I had the calipers replaced - which they tailor-made for either 15" or 16" ready for the new ones in spring. I asked the garage to do this for me, and they did. So the front are not the problem.
As far as the grinding is concerned its one of the back ones
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 11/15/04 01:30pm >>>
> If you have a spare 10mins, jack the front up and holding the tyres at
> 12 and 6 oclock, try wobbling them - this will indicate bearing issues, > that can end up being serious, although you will hear a grinding noise > from them before they go critical.
>
I had a front bearing problem which I left too late (half a week)
and the front hub assembly where the wheel bearings fit into got damaged.
The wheel bearings actually disintegrated!
=A3148 + VAT from Toyota for the new part.
Bottom line is: if you hear anything from the front wheels - check
them bearings.
Rgds,
--
Dennis
'91 1HD-T
Sorry about the disclaimer..
The Royal Bank of Scotland plc, Registered in Scotland No. 90312. Registered Office: 36 St Andrew Square, Edinburgh EH2 2YB
The Royal Bank of Scotland plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and represents The Royal Bank of Scotland Marketing Group. The Bank sells life policies, collective investment schemes and pension products and advises only on the Marketing Group's range of these products and on a With-Profit Bond produced by Norwich Union Life (RBS) Limited.
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